Orcs on the March - high score/highlights/combat statistics

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

I didn't use the ancient phoenix to have it attack, I used it to allow me to fit of energy my bone dragons each turn. You keep the Ancient Phoenix DEAD so it can't be removed from play, and on each of its turns (where you would have the chance to resurrect it) you instead just cast fit of energy to let the bonies do even more poison.

Only one stack of Scrounger's army was greater than 60k leadership (or was level 5 anyway) so the magic shackles worked on the first turn. The 66k worth of Furious goblins were knocked under 60k by ball lightning. Note that I used a Flaming Eyes scroll to get 30k leadership for the fight, making my shackles particularly potent. I realized that I had 25k leadership for the fight base, and that 20% more would get me to 30k, and that as a mage I get 2x Leadership for shackles, so I used the scroll even though I didn't really have more army to put in.

It was super effective ;P.

I always figured there was some way to abuse that "dead Phoenix" thing. I also have contemplated on abusing Fit of Energy for my Shrek army.

Ah yes, Flaming eyes can definitely be helpful there, good thinking!

Yes, the furious goblins are very annoying to deal with, especially since I usually roll with level 5s.

Interesting. I think I did do Arianna's White Kraken thing in all of my games though, and I still only got 92 in one of my games.

[No Casualties]

lvl 61, all medals, pet dragon lvl 60, over 8.3 mil gold.

[No Casualties]

and Spells screenshot

[Zechnophobe]

Well, apparently winning the game like 12 times isn't enough. I've decided to do a 'fast' no loss run through, going the minimum number of trips to each island.

I know some people have figured out the 'best' way of doing it, but I wanted to try and figure it out by myself. Here's my route:

Debir (Clean, steal scrolls in Eventus)
Scarlet (Clean, quest for Rusty
Bolo (Clean completely)
Rusty (Clean, maybe leave zag-zag. Get password for Scarlet, have 50-50-50)
Verona(As many quests as possible)
Montero (Get wings?)
Dersu (glasses for Bobur, bagourti in love, kill uzala)
Tekron (CLEAN COMPLETELY, including abyss!)
Umkas (Clean completely... what if we need wings? Might need wings of Necro call before this!)
Reha (pillage, get documents for Elon)
Nameless (At the very least clean dungeon, and get all quests for elsewhere)
Uzala(Defeat Ruler, get all pearls, clean)
Elon (Rescue Telion and kill Shenobi, buy demon skin, Astrology, hunchback cure)
Rusty (Deliver cure, zag-zag if not)
Scarlet (Open cave, time back scroll, get chest
Debir (Finish tower of eventus, return that one chick)
Verona (Deliver papers to degosh, get astrology stuff, wings if not already, clean anything else missed, nameless quest, Demenion)
Dersu(drop off shenobi, kill frog, deliver glasses)
Uzala(Turn in quest)
Shattera(get soul for Lew Klisan, kill Scrounger, clean)
Elon(Deliver soul, kill Gremlion)
Reha (Clean, kill K'tahu)
Verona(finish)

So far so good, halfway through Scarlet. I was hoping to do the first Eventus fight to see what scrolls they had on level two, but it just wasn't reasonable.

The new shop on Debir sold two Engineers, so I gladly purchased them (area blind is rather good that early in the game ). Debir had the ancient amulet... but good luck getting 50k before leaving the island! DID dig up Fear early on, so that's nice. Also did a quikc test 'run' to Rusty Anchor and found the shop there selling Green Dragons, so I don't need to stress out about getting the pirates/robbers before getting there. (though I may anyway since that cave is loot city, and the EGD is free).

Anyone have luck defeating the Kraken before leaving the second island? I think it may be doable, but not sure.

I don't normally use the save game scanner, but I'm considering it just to make sure there is a timeback scroll (or two !). Not being able to finish that quest sounds infuriating.

[atlatea]

About defeating kraken before leaving 2nd island, i never try it in the new patch, but on previous patch it is easily doable with warrior and paladin for true no loss, but i never tried it with mage.

Usually i just use archmage/inquisitor, rune mage (must reach 2k leadership before leaving 2nd island), royal thorn, orc tracker. It is possible to replace rune mage with red dragon if you replay battles for call of colosus, but i usually save my call of colosus for black dragon, so that i can clear all rusty with ease, that zag zag guy is considered as the hardest obstacle in rusty anchor by most people for 7 days no loss run (especially if they use call of colosus for red dragon), but he is nothing with a black dragon, and black dragon in KB CW is much better than in AP or TL.

[Zechnophobe]

I barely have 1k as a mage, so I don't think a Rune mage is going to be on the table. Not even sure there are enough fights to get Tactics 2, and the idea of blowing a lot of mind runes for leadership doesn't sound like a good idea at the moment.

Also.. why bother with Zag-Zag on Rusty? You can get him later, and he isn't worth that much xp and gold anyway?

Crap, I just realized I forgot to kill the necromancer in Debir, Guess I'll reload my pre-leave save. Doh!

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

I barely have 1k as a mage, so I don't think a Rune mage is going to be on the table. Not even sure there are enough fights to get Tactics 2, and the idea of blowing a lot of mind runes for leadership doesn't sound like a good idea at the moment.

Also.. why bother with Zag-Zag on Rusty? You can get him later, and he isn't worth that much xp and gold anyway?

Crap, I just realized I forgot to kill the necromancer in Debir, Guess I'll reload my pre-leave save. Doh!

It hurt my time, but I snuck to Verona to get Call Phoenix, that is how I killed the Kraken.

I might have also had Jesus Boots ... er Sandals of the Martyr.

Not sure if you want to hear too many hints, if not then consider


















Also, you can save time if you can kill Ktahu the first time you go to Reha.

[Minecontrol]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Ugh, my memory is getting too short. Yeah, Black Hole is the best option as a Mage... I simply did not have it for my 'quasi-speed' run.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...=16636&page=16

A real shame, as this time around, I could have easily smacked her with like 84 int.

I'm also a little miffled and confused about Black Hole damage. The mouse-over the spell book said it did around 19K maximum damage. Yet, against Baal and Friends, I did 27K a few times.

How the hell can you get 84 intelligence!?

A good end game magic with me would have around 30-40.

Well, apparently winning the game like 12 times isn't enough. I've decided to do a 'fast' no loss run through, going the minimum number of trips to each island.

That's what i am doing now with mage, currently cleaned most of Verona/Montera lvl 29 on middle of day 5 - but with so many boat trips ahead i don't think i could do it in 7 - what is irritating is that i can 'almost' kill the hag in the castle for my wings - 'almost' - but not quite and i have to leave here now... pity. I don't know how people do it in 7 days when you consider all the go here talk to this person return to island B talk, go back to the original island quests.. I think for Crossworlds 8 or 9 days is more realistic (including orcs quest).

[Zechnophobe]

I'll be pretty content with 8 or 9 day run. And since I *know* I am losing time in Reha, I am pretty sure that makes 7 days impossible. Maybe if I get a good cheese strategy going I can do Reha in one shot? Heh.. yeah right.

So, I finished Scarlet last night, and payed out for Glory 3 for that 350 leadership, that gives me enough for a rune mage, and Bolo has Cyclopses (I may have enough leadership for two before I leave, if I get to my 50th fight here!).

I'm in a bad way for some more rage, so I may need to use my next might runes on Rage Control. Haven't found any good items for it yet and still only have 15 (I am SOOO glad I grabbed the +5 rage dragon, some of these fights would not have been doable without mystic egg).

Only tricky fight on Bolo is the Droid. I seem to recall he likes magic lock and lightning (not at level 3, thankfully). There is also the Verona Scroll here that I will try to get, it is often guarded by large but very weak stacks. I didn't both defeating that army on Scarlet since the scroll was not there.

I am somewhat worried that I have left a few fights behind. The necromancer on Debir was basically impossible without some crazy exploit. Same with Richard the Cruel and one other pirate there (I did get Dick Korma for the dragon slayer medal though!). I'm hoping I don't run out of steam by skipping these fights.

[atlatea]

How the hell can you get 84 intelligence!?

A good end game magic with me would have around 30-40.

lol it is not possible without save game scanner. Well, it is possible without scanner, but the chance is very low, unless you're a very lucky guy.

Use scanner, and 84 int is no dream.


@Zechnophobe
I guess it is possible to get 2k leadership at the end of scarlet with mage, though you probably need some luck with +leadership item. I'm not sure, but i'm 100% sure it is possible.

Though i never tried it myself. I tend to play paladin, or warrior.

As for zag zag, i think any xp is worth, 7 days run usually mean no kiting, so any way to boost lv is welcomed, that's why any xp is worth. Though it depends on your route and other self set rules.