Microsoft not out of the flight sim game after all...

[FAE_Cazador]

Originally Posted by Antoninus

The trailer is available on youtube since several days.

Yeah I finally downloaded it from another website and watched it.

@Artjunky: Trying to see directly on the MS website not only forced me to install WMP 10 but, as I rejected that, my Firefox 3.8 got stuck and had to kill the Firefox process to go on. It's the only time I have seen such behaviour, I can tell you I have opened a lot of videos in a lot of websites with no problems

Well, and what about the video Just to see a Boeing Stearman flying by for some seconds, on quite nice waters and something like the "Jurassic Park" island on the background? (It also reminds me Oleg's funny island shown on screenshots posted months ago)

What does it shows? Vaporware, so far.

IMHO M-S has got what they wanted: just to make Air Sim community to pay attention to them again, at very low cost.

[artjunky]

Cazador,

It's just sort of silly now that it's been 5-6 years since talk of bob started.

Frankly, I don't care all that much when it comes out. It would just be nice if I had a date so I don't have to keep coming back here all the time just to make sure I didn't, somehow, miss the release.

As far as the video is concerned, with YOUTUBE, flash, and html5, there are a lot of things that are changing video formats. It's actually sort of amazing that we can actually play videos.

AVIs are falling out of use and it's really an issue with the drivers. Sorry to imply that you didn't know what you were doing...I was just trying to suggest that your system needs to be tweaked every once in a while to keep it working... Even then, there's no guarantee. And being on a 64 bit system, you add a few more layers of complexity...often drivers are slow to be developed in 64 bit...

[udidwht]

Originally Posted by Frantishek

After reading this and other comments, I am sure MS only repackaged its last MSFS in a different way, likely X-Box compatible too, to eek out some more $$ from its dead game (after all they fired/sacked/laid off nearly all its FS team, would cost them huge amounts to bring them back).

X-Plane has one major advantage. A company whose #1 mission is to make the best FS in the world, and not take over the world.


I wonder if Oleg may introduce a FS just to fly branch of his new game?
Fly Tigermoths, DC-3's (not 47), Vegas, Jungman, Ju-52 civilian, FW-200 civilian, Do-24 Search and Rescue, etc.

You get a cigar. The fact that they mention Windows Live tells you a lot. Console. This will be for Xbox360 and a port of FSX with down-loadable content. No question about it.

[robtek]

It might be that MS:Flight relates to FSX as BoP/WoP relates to IL2 1946

[nearmiss]

The WOW and other online game popularity along with the large income stream from subscribers is a very attractive business model.

M$FT is about making money, end of story.

It would be interesting to read just what M$FT views in terms of a successful application - dollar wise that is.

[ElAurens]

Oh.

Joy.

I can fly around in a plane that has essentially no FM and absolutely no DM and wait for clearance to land, and stuff.

FSX was the most boring piece of software I've ever installed. Horrible ground textures, unless you spend big money for hi res stuff that only covered limited areas. Every plane pretty much flew like every other plane, within a specified type. No indications of the onset of airframe failure do to "overstressing". Just fly along, pull up and *boink* black screen, end of "mission".

FSX was a flight procedure simulator and nothing more.

But then I guess some people enjoy pretending to be ATCs and telling other people what to do.


I'll pass.

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Oh.

Joy.

I can fly around in a plane that has essentially no FM and absolutely no DM and wait for clearance to land, and stuff.

FSX was the most boring piece of software I've ever installed. Horrible ground textures, unless you spend big money for hi res stuff that only covered limited areas. Every plane pretty much flew like every other plane, within a specified type. No indications of the onset of airframe failure do to "overstressing". Just fly along, pull up and *boink* black screen, end of "mission".

FSX was a flight procedure simulator and nothing more.

But then I guess some people enjoy pretending to be ATCs and telling other people what to do.


I'll pass.

+1000

Stock FSX is dreadful. Some of the payware stuff is really good, but that's not what I buy games for, to pay more money to make them fun.

@udidwht: BTW, Windows Live doesn't necessarily imply consoles, Dawn of War II (Warhammer 40k strategy game) uses Windows Live. And Steam. What an absolute faff on that was, especially since if you couldn't login to Windows Live (for example if their servers were down or even just very busy), you could basically do nothing in the game. Anyway it says on the site that it's a PC exclusive doesn't it?

[proton45]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

wow looks really good and they are already on the marketing trail, I imagine this will be on the shelves sooner than we think.

Is a web site the only thing you need to become a "true believer" ? Maybe I have been following the sim world for too long, but I need more information about the game to get my hopes up... I'm disappointed Tree...

Originally Posted by artjunky

Cazador,

It's just sort of silly now that it's been 5-6 years since talk of bob started.

Frankly, I don't care all that much when it comes out. It would just be nice if I had a date so I don't have to keep coming back here all the time just to make sure I didn't, somehow, miss the release.

I dont think you have to worry about missing the release...once its out their will be a flurry of reviews and advertisements. Theirs no need for you to check in here and get depressed...

[Tempest123]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Oh.

Joy.

I can fly around in a plane that has essentially no FM and absolutely no DM and wait for clearance to land, and stuff.

FSX was the most boring piece of software I've ever installed. Horrible ground textures, unless you spend big money for hi res stuff that only covered limited areas. Every plane pretty much flew like every other plane, within a specified type. No indications of the onset of airframe failure do to "overstressing". Just fly along, pull up and *boink* black screen, end of "mission".

FSX was a flight procedure simulator and nothing more.

But then I guess some people enjoy pretending to be ATCs and telling other people what to do.


I'll pass.

So true, I cant stand it when I change views in FsX and all the textures go blank, and then reload for a split second, the graphics engine seemed soo old, no matter how nice it looked. I found it helpful for actual procedures training, like VORs etc. and it was a nice tool to help fly circuits, but the only view that is useful is the big old 2d panel for that kind of stuff. That being said I'm glad MS Flight Simulator exists because I think it was a good (and remarkably complex) product to get people interested in aviation, and it was available nearly everywhere. As for what you do when you are done "flying around" in FsX, well thats what Il2 is for!

Originally Posted by proton45

Is a web site the only thing you need to become a "true believer" ? Maybe I have been following the sim world for too long, but I need more information about the game to get my hopes up... I'm disappointed Tree...




I dont think you have to worry about missing the release...once its out their will be a flurry of reviews and advertisements. Theirs no need for you to check in here and get depressed...

I never mentioned anything about being a true believer, I did say 'wow' it looks really good, and it maybe released sooner than we think. You are reading far too much into my posts my friend.