Press Ministry Requests $17M for 1C's Patriotic Computer Game

[AndyJWest]

Now I’m 100% convinced that the posting was correct, not to say highly necessary, as some, most, of the posts here is a shocking proof of what is, and for a long time have been, going on in the world when it comes to biased “education” and twisting of historical facts.

Really, Viking?
Let's look at one 'fact' - what Oleg Maddox had to say about the posting:

A lot of incorrect info, beginneing fromn Il-2 amount of sold

It is leaked info with great distoritions.

It isn't a project yet.

Government people found that Il-2 is modeling a lot of things, not just ruissian front. Just htink about it... They evaluated version 1946... if to speak about overmodelled things... Now think twice: There is no speech about SoW. Nothing.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...4&postcount=36
Yes, everyone puts a spin on history. The way to counter this is with research, not conspiracy theories and vague accusations based on dubious press reports.

[Viking]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Keep that in mind before posting garbage like this again:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...11&postcount=2

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...24&postcount=4

That my dear, was an off topic (Il-2) posting and I threaded it, and you “guys”, as such!

[Viking]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Really, Viking?
Let's look at one 'fact' - what Oleg Maddox had to say about the posting:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...4&postcount=36
Yes, everyone puts a spin on history. The way to counter this is with research, not conspiracy theories and vague accusations based on dubious press reports.

And the conspirator theories and vague accusations are exactly what?

Please explain!

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Viking

That my dear, was an off topic (Il-2) posting and I threaded it, and you “guys”, as such!

Regardless of whether it was 'off-topic' or not, it certainly wasn't 'civil'. And come to that, debating the falsification of history isn't exactly on topic either.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Viking

And the conspirator theories and vague accusations are exactly what?

Please explain!

You wrote:

...some, most, of the posts here is a shocking proof of what is, and for a long time have been, going on in the world when it comes to biased “education” and twisting of historical facts.

That is a specific statement about postings on this forum. Without evidence, it reads to me as a vague accusation about a supposed conspiracy.

[Viking]

“The goal of the project is to foster a sense of patriotism in children and shut out falsifications of history, the ministry official said……

The secret to the project's success is 1C's experience in developing training simulators. The company's Il-2 Shturmovik game is one of the 25 best games ever, according to Imagine Games Network. It has been translated into 11 languages, and 1.3 million copies have been sold.”

That, my dear, is what makes it a true IL-2 topic! Well at least in my world but I’m no moderator

My posts in that off-topic thread weren’t meant to be civil but rather to be honest.
Keep it civil guys!

[ramstein]

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest

If you watch History Channel, you end up believing that lone P-51s, P-47s or P-38s were able to destroy German and/or Japanese fighters 10 at a time EVERY sortie they made every day of the war.

However, most real history books shows that the war didn't end two weeks after the USA entered into the conflict.

Since I've seen the depiction of WW2 aerial warfare in "Dogfights", I think History channel just lacks enough money to put their "documentaries" in movie theatres because the effects are too cheap.

However, the lack of accuracy, cheap scenario and patriotic messages are worth any Jerry Bruckheimer production.

And this is just for very recent, well documented and easily accessible History.

Now imagine what they are saying about pre-History or antic History.

this is a good example where proof would help..

ok,
which fights/battles were misrepresnted.. as posted, so far it is opinion.. I need specifics..

I always saw them as giving credit when credit was due.. if we got our ass kicked, they showed us getitng our ass kicked..
if we were winning, they showed us winning..

btw, I speak to wwii vets often, in person for hours on end.. and not one of them had a complaint about the History channel

[Viking]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

You wrote:

That is a specific statement about postings on this forum. Without evidence, it reads to me as a vague accusation about a supposed conspiracy.

Yes! It was called the cold war and it cast a dark shadow over Europe and Russia that we are now trying to illuminate.

[AndyJWest]

I'd say the cold war cast a dark shadow over the whole world, but that is beside the point. You made a specific statement about postings on this forum. Are you going to back this up with evidence of this 'shocking proof'?

And since Oleg Maddox has told us the press release was incorrect, why do you keep referring to it as proof of anything?

[nearmiss]

This thread is about to be shut down. Address the topic or find something else to occupy your time.