Bf109 test data

[klem]

GUYS! PLEASE don't turn this thread into an ego/red/blue argument fest. I just want links to historical data.

I have been unable to decide which data to use for Bf109 testing (speed at altitudes, climb, turn).

There seem to be factory specs, French Tests, British Tests, Swiss Tests but there does not appear to be a definitive data set for any "BoB" 109.

Would you please post a link to historical data that you believe best represents (one of?) the 109s we have so that I can test ours. Please confirm Manifold Pressure, RPM, Radiator setting and anything else you believe is relevant so that I do not rely on my interpretation alone.

Again, I don't want 'opinions' just data and any qualifying information.


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Many thanks.

[Kwiatek]

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...09/me109e.html

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...109E1-1791.jpg

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...109e3-1792.jpg

Dont think you find any better

[[URU]AkeR]

whatever source you choose there will be another saying different, so if you have the time take as many believable sources as you can find and use the average values

[klem]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...09/me109e.html

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...109E1-1791.jpg

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...109e3-1792.jpg

Dont think you find any better

Thanks, I don't know how I missed the first one. It seems to collect everyone's opinions

Still not sure which to choose so I think I'll start with the Me109E-3 and see how that looks against a selection of them.

[JtD]

I'd also recommend Kurfürsts site, which provides some more in depth information on some of the data found.

[41Sqn_Banks]

http://www.rolfwolf.de/daten/E4/Emil.html

[*Buzzsaw*]

Salute

Nothing is ever simple, there are no easy ways to arrive at 109 performance figures which are 'exact'.

The German figures are qualified with a note that different engines of the same type, (DB601A, N, etc.) can vary from +2.5/-2.5 percentage difference in engine horsepower output. That can easily add up to 20 kilometers per hour difference between different aircraft when we are talking about top speed at altitude.

The British, American and Swiss figures are done with aircraft which are either captured or export variants, which might or might not perform up to German standards.

In addition, often tests are done at different boost levels, or with radiators either open or shut.

Some of the German documents may or may not have figures which are inflated, as they are intended to provide information for potential foreign buyers, and obviously a higher performance aircraft is more likely to sell.

All of the above means that one has to be VERY careful in the study of the various tests/figures, and not jump to hasty conclusions.

What we do know is that the 109E was a very competitive and dangerous aircraft, capable of taking on the Hurricane and Spitfire in the aerial combat arena. And vice versa.