4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[Pips]

I'd just like to hear of some news from the guys. The last time anything was posted was back in January - 6 months ago!

[Buster_Dee]

Pips, I wish I could give you something useful, but I'm just a modeler. Projects are alive and moving from what I can tell. The B-24D Monguse and I built seems in good shape now, but it requires some new tech due to the peculiarities of turbine-assisted supercharging and semi-automated mixture control found in US heavies. We had not crossed that bridge before. Computing gun and bomb sights have opened their own challenges.

Please bear with us.

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

In comparison to an airplane a human is a small target, and for many gun positions the gunner was an even harder target because he was hidden behind armor or was seated, kneeling or crouching which made him a harder target. So, getting a solid hit on a gunner is quite tricky, especially at range.

The common tactic of LW and Hungarian fighters was to kill the rear gunner of IL-2s first. It resulted in extreme casualties amongst gunners. It wasnt easy of course, but also not that so difficult.

Anyway, I also agree, B-17 and B-24, maybe even He-111 should be much harder to shoot down. In fact, they arent much more durable than La-5/7, and definitely less durable than IL-2!

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Buster_Dee

Pips, The B-24D Monguse and I built seems in good shape now, but it requires some new tech due to the peculiarities of turbine-assisted supercharging and semi-automated mixture control found in US heavies. We had not crossed that bridge before. Computing gun and bomb sights have opened their own challenges.

Please bear with us.

Interesting, as the P 47, which we have had for a very long time, is also turbo-supercharged, and all late US aircraft have the "auto rich" and "auto lean" feature, as do many British aircraft.

I'm guessing this means they have been incorrectly modeled all along?

And thanks to you and Monguse for the tireless effort on that beautiful B 24.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Interesting, as the P 47, which we have had for a very long time, is also turbo-supercharged, and all late US aircraft have the "auto rich" and "auto lean" feature, as do many British aircraft.

I'm guessing this means they have been incorrectly modeled all along?

And thanks to you and Monguse for the tireless effort on that beautiful B 24.

Very good point. I wonder if any of this might have an impact on the P-38 or P-47 as well.

[Buster_Dee]

Shows you why I'm only a modeler lol. I don't think turbine supercharging was ever actually modeled (e.g., no axis for variable adjustment). I don't fly much, but I have the impression that Auto-Rich and Auto-Lean were never really done either. The advantages are high altitude and long range, neither of which is very appealing to the average player. On the other hand, Auto-Lean could really stretch a light fuel load, letting you carry more bombs--provided you know enough to avoid cooking the engines.

I need to get back to my paper airplanes. Lord knows I'm out of my depth here

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Buster_Dee

Shows you why I'm only a modeler lol. I don't think turbine supercharging was ever actually modeled (e.g., no axis for variable adjustment). I don't fly much, but I have the impression that Auto-Rich and Auto-Lean were never really done either. The advantages are high altitude and long range, neither of which is very appealing to the average player. On the other hand, Auto-Lean could really stretch a light fuel load, letting you carry more bombs--provided you know enough to avoid cooking the engines.

I need to get back to my paper airplanes. Lord knows I'm out of my depth here

Most of us probably are I know of maybe a handful on the forums here and elsewhere that truly understand all of the mechanical bits and pieces and how they affect performance. The rest of us have a passing understanding at best.

Laying out some B-24 missions and it's great to hear that development is getting there.

[ElAurens]

Can't wait to put that early Liberator on my Aleutians scenario.

[Buster_Dee]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Can't wait to put that early Liberator on my Aleutians scenario.

Me too. I've been under the hood for so long that all I want to do is watch someone else do something with it for a change.

[Royzewic]

Anybody know the release date? I know itis on the way, but do they know when they will give it to us?