Dryads = Imbalanced

[Ryastar]

Originally Posted by Stepsongrapes

Your amazing lack of knowledge of lullaby, the dryad's most powerful ability, completes discredits any position you have on dryads.

At least know the damn unit if you are going to argue about it.

Stepsongrapes: Lol, did you even read my post? Read point 1 again. If i understand english correctly, i`m pretty sure that i covered lulaby. Let me reiterate my point: since you only get dryads in the last third of the game, by which time most dangerous enemies are undead, mind immune or level 4-5, lulaby isn`t that useful. I do see that i neglected to mention it by name, but i would think that by mentioning all the groups that are unaffected by lulaby, and then mentioning how those units render a dryad`s only truely powerful ability useless.

Sleepy: yet again, you conveniently only focus on one part of my entire post, namely, the beginning, where i just used some stupid introduction to my post. I think it`s hilarious how you read so much in to a comment that took me less than thirty seconds to write, and i thought about for even less time, and ignore all my arguments. I am in no way trying to control what you post. I admit that the whole dryad argument is annoying me, so i wrote my arguments clearly in my last post here. For someone who, in an earlier post (number 34 in this thread) accused and abused Gatts for ignoring parts of your argument, you ignored an awful lot of mine, namely, all of it. Practice what you preach man, or it destroy your credibility.

[sleepy]

Originally Posted by taltamir

if half the game is "broken" and "overpowered", maybe it is not the game but your expectations that need to be adjusted. I just love the idea of there being creative rule uses that are exploitative...

Way to put words into people's mouth just so you have something disingenuous to argue against. I CHALLENGE you to do a search for the word "half" in this entire thread, and tell us who claimed "half the game is broken or overpowered".

Can't find it, can you?

Read the thread topic again to see which single issue is being discussed. When you try to make things up by putting words into people's mouth, you will be called out and made to look foolish in front of all.

[taltamir]

Originally Posted by sleepy

Pointing out a bunch of other broken or cheesy things somehow makes Dryads not broken or cheesy?

I made a list of just SOME of the ways to dominate the game, you responded with the above message. Meaning in your view those things I mentioned are broken and cheesy. (rather then just awesome and useful if used correctly). I am not putting words in your mouth, you said it yourself.
I'll give it to you, it is not LITERALLY HALF (I was being figurative), but it is a significant amount. And from the list I made the dryad is by far the LEAST useful, important, or overpowering.

[sleepy]

Originally Posted by taltamir

I'll give it to you, it is not LITERALLY HALF (I was being figurative), but it is a significant amount.

If it isn't half, and you failed to find any quotes of people making that claim, then the lesson of the story here is to not make things up just so you have something to argue against. Here is another lesson : its a logical fallacy called "strawman" (google this if you need)

Originally Posted by taltamir

And from the list I made the dryad is by far the LEAST useful, important, or overpowering.

And there you go again. You used the word least in all caps, as if that somehow turned your PERSONAL OPINION into FACT. Cause it doesn't, and stating a personal opinion does not a logical arguement make.

But of course, you STILL can't explain why pointing out a bunch of other broken or cheesy things somehow makes the broken and cheesy Dryads NOT broken or cheesy. Want to debate something? Learn to use logic and reasons. Smoke and mirror will *also* be called out and you'll just end up looking foolish.

Class dismissed, again.

[Ryastar]

Originally Posted by sleepy

If it isn't half, and you failed to find any quotes of people making that claim, then the lesson of the story here is to not make things up just so you have something to argue against. Here is another lesson : its a logical fallacy called "strawman" (google this if you need)



And there you go again. You used the word least in all caps, as if that somehow turned your PERSONAL OPINION into FACT. Cause it doesn't, and stating a personal opinion does not a logical arguement make.

But of course, you STILL can't explain why pointing out a bunch of other broken or cheesy things somehow makes the broken and cheesy Dryads NOT broken or cheesy. Want to debate something? Learn to use logic and reasons. Smoke and mirror will *also* be called out and you'll just end up looking foolish.

Class dismissed, again.

Having fun, sleepy? Good job only responding to the weakest arguments anyone brings forward, and, if you can't find any weak ones, just latching on to one small part of the post, and creating a whole rant around it. As i said in my post, above (where you created an imaginary set of motives for a small statement that i wrote just because i wanted something funny-ish to start my argument (though even i didn't that it was all that funny)), Taltamir is NOT saying that these other things being broken or cheesy makes Dryads less cheesy. What he IS saying, is that, since these other things are far worse, more broken and cheesy than dryads (considering that they aren't, this isn't hard), IN COMPARASON, dryads aren't that bad. (for reasons why Dryads aren't broken/cheesy, try actually reading my post, instead of what you did do, as i explained above)

And Sleepy, actually read people's posts. In the quote you gave, Taltamir specifically said that he was being figurative, or exagerrating for effect (it's called hyperbole, try googling it), so, no he did not mean half, and he said he did not.

Class Dismissed (you do realize that ending your post with this every time looks arrogant, stupid and pretentious, especially since you fail to actually teach any lessons in your posts)

[Va'an_Majere]

hI, i might be crashing here, but i just wanna know. is there a place in elven lands that sell dryads in hordes? i've completed karador's quest, but the only dryad source i found is in the magic valley's magic tree, and the dryad supply has dried up.

[Metathron]

Not that I know.

[Ryastar]

Check all the shops everywhere in Ellinia, that's your best bet to find more Dryads.

[maltz]

I don't think Dryads are imbalanced. They are very useful against some enemies and nearly useless against others - for example:

(1) Heroes/units that cast fear on them - you instantly lose control
(2) Magic resistance creatures

Dryads are perfect for troop conservation against daily encounters, but for tougher fights (very strong, impossible) it is better to swap them out with some thick-skin melee such as Royal snakes, Horsemen and Griffins.

[megajon]

I say absolutely they are... they are highly adaptable and useful in nearly every encounter... I am just pissed I haven't found any =P