So, Nehalem is OK?

[SPUDLEY1977]

For those with interest:
Gigabyte EP35-DS4, bios ver F3
E8400 (2x 3.0G) , 2 Gig HyperX DDR2 Ram 1333,
BFG 8800 GT OC 512 Meg, 625/900/1560 default
(this default GT OC is already approx 5 %)
VSYNC on at 60 (Max)

Using Gigabyte Easy Tune Pro 5.0
to perform the overclocks, and confirmed with GPU-Z.

Il-2 2.04
Video Mode: ALL HIGHEST OPTIONS
Video Option: 1280 x 960 x 32

A couple FPS change is really meaningless as I did not run each 10 times and take an average. With multiple runs of same settings one might see two FPS change between the runs.

RESULTS FOR BLACK DEATH ( min:sec FPS )
1. ALL STOCK CPU and Vid Card
1:07 56 1:45 49

2. CPU @ 3.3 G:
1:07 54 1:45 49

3. CPU @ 3.3 + VID CARD 630 / 930
1:07 54 1:45 49

4. CPU @4.0 G + VID CARD 640 /950
1:07 52 1:45 49

CONCLUSION:
OC CPU 17% combined with total 7% OC of Vid Card (over non OC version) seems to have no benefit. I used GPU-Z to confirm the OC values. Undoubtedly there will be significant increases in heat buildup + reduced max theoretical life expectancy of the chip + increased energy consumption. Interestingly from the above metrics my FPS appears to drop when OC'ing.<< I certainly was not expecting that, was expecting either no change or a few frames of trending upward.

Note that I have another sys (old specs) which was AMD (one core) 2.2 G + 6800 Ultra. Stepping up to my current PC specs was significant in terms of visuals / smoothness / etc. THe MINIMUM FPS in IL-2 were significantly improved (perhaps 2x if my memory serves).

After reading the data on many of the new tech CPUs/VIDCARDS/MEMORY it is not of use nor value for me to spend any more money to improve my gaming. I am perfectly satisfied with my current rig gaming capacity. My min FPS are sufficiently close to 60 (LCD MAX CAPACITY).

All the I7 MOBOS have had significant problems as shipped to consumers. This new platform will need at least a year to mature to the point of being a viable / reliable / stable option. The technology on paper of the I7 shows a significant potential step up but in my opinion it is not ready for market nor my $$$ (this is pretty typical).

My testing for your benefit, no cost to you.
I also play LOCKON and BF2. Note that LOCKON is also a huge resource hog as is IL-2. I have OC'd before and recall similiar non benefits for LOCKON as were presented above for IL-2.

Now I will take the CPU and VID CARD back to their native settings. If I can just get my buddy SimDee to recover from his latest flight experiences with me on his 6 perhaps I will continue to home my pitiful flight skills.

Peace

[Flyby]

then there's SoW_BoB which may be coded to work with multi-cored cpus. But perhaps your GPU was becoming a bottleneck during your overclocking, or maybe the ram? I don't know, but it looks like the cpu was waiting more and more when it was overclocking. Too bad I'm not an expert on such things. So it's just my take on your test data. Or maybe it is the PCI-e 1.0 P35 chipset with limited PCI-e bandwidth compared to say a P45 which supports PCI-e 2.0 with greater bandwidth pass-through? Maybe I'm an optimist?
At any rate, are those the average FPS for the BD track? Pretty damn solild if they are, if you ask me. Well done!
Flyby out

[SPUDLEY1977]

At 1min 7 sec and 1 min 45 seconds into the track I see my lowest FPS in the Death Track with the default views and the settings as indicated in the post. So those are the lowest FPS at the two respective times. Note that VSYNC caps at 60.

Unknown which if any one particular component is the sole bottleneck. When I build em I do my research to ensure I don't make the mistake of not properly matching the capacity of the critical components. Otherwise the upgrade/build is a bit pointless.

[Flyby]

rgrt, Spudley,
I apperciate your work and the fact that you aren't charging for it! I do have a request. Could you run a similar test using the Kamikaze track? On my last system that track proved to be a tougher ride than the BD track. My last system had HyperX ddr400 ram, an Intel 2.8ht processor, and an Nvidia 6800 Ultra on an Abit IS7 mobo @800FSB. BD dragged min fps to 13 while Kamikaze went down to 7fps near the end. Be nice to see what a modern system can do with that puppy.
Flyby out

[SPUDLEY1977]

Hey FLEAFLY,
Your wish is my command.
Unfortunately I have deleted the Kamikaze.trk as well as all other tracks with exception of the BD track. I cannot locate it on the CD's and will not reinstall just to do so. If you can show me where I can just DLD it I would be happy to do so and perform the test for you. NO COST!

PEACE

[Flyby]

Fleafly? Uh well..nevermind.
Flyby out

[SPUDLEY1977]

OK,
Running Kamikaze on 4.04M with the following results:

ALL settings MAXED, including Landscape = Perfect:
Primarily 60 FPS +/- , a few drops to 37 with the lowest FPS circa 1:4x where it reads 25 FPS once or twice.

All settings MAXED, except Landscape = EXCELLENT:
(I prefer this setting since on Perfect the water and reflections really look a bit surrealistic and thus detract from my visuals)
Primarily 60 FPS +/-, with the lowest FPS again circa 1:4x where it drops to 41.

Hope this info is useful.

YOURS TRULY TESTPILOT

[Flyby]

Spudley, you are indeed a test pilot. Thanks fo rgoing through the trouble, man. Your rig shows how far things have come since the days of Kamikaze chugging down to 7 fps on my defunct system. I don't recall the time events you quoted, but I'll say that towards the end of the track is where I saw the lowest fps, when the Zero was crashing the carrier, iirc. That explosion was an fps-killer. So yes, your test was useful to me, TESTPILOT!
thanks!!
Flyby out

[alert]

Just came along to this little but neverthless telling snippet from Oleg's room:
"There will be many surprises in time. Like with Il-2 we put in engine many things that will be open later later depending of middle PC power on the market.
With 4.09 we will stop any work with Il-2. Really we did it already... just waiting finalization of new maps."
So it indicates, that highpowered Nehalem/extreme quad edition PC might be just waste of money and SoW "entry level" rig beased on DualCore Exxxx will be more then enough for decent gameplay and even the most powerful quad wont be enough when all those "thing are open later".

[Flyby]

Originally Posted by alert

Just came along to this little but neverthless telling snippet from Oleg's room:
"There will be many surprises in time. Like with Il-2 we put in engine many things that will be open later later depending of middle PC power on the market.
With 4.09 we will stop any work with Il-2. Really we did it already... just waiting finalization of new maps."
So it indicates, that highpowered Nehalem/extreme quad edition PC might be just waste of money and SoW "entry level" rig beased on DualCore Exxxx will be more then enough for decent gameplay and even the most powerful quad wont be enough when all those "thing are open later".

So I've been selling blood and robbing beer trucks for nothing?! Or maybe I just need to curtail my money-making duties until those "things" are opened later.