Friday the 14th Development Update

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Thank you bongo...you are a lawyer?

I wish I was.....I'd be rich.

Luthiers statement

The general plan is, after the milestone is submitted and accepted, we return to the now almost-final patch, cram as much as we can into it, and make it our final Cliffs of Dover patch. The next time it will be updated is when you install the sequel over it

The bit in red means 'AFTER' the release of the final CLOD patch.

[steeldelete]

This is good news!

The show will go on

there will be a patch

there will be a sequel

there will be many more posts to read

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

You forgot a very important part of running a business here Luthier, you missed out the word 'CUSTOMERS'. After selling us this product with no mention of any of the problems that you were fully aware of you should put your CUSTOMERS before anything else. You have failed to do that in my honest opinion, your priority for the last 18 months should have been all hands on deck fixing what you sold us rather than concentrating on your next money making scheme.

LOL, where do you live? In the real world it is you don't make money, you're out. Team scattered, and not a single patch for anyone this way. Meeting deadlines for milestones is a necessity in business, and I'm pretty sure if the choice was up to luthier and his crew, it would be different.

Maybe you can change the deadline for the next milestone if you write a nice letter to luthiers bosses, but I'm fairly certain they will only appreciate it for comical value.

[superman]

One and a half year after release and people are still writing posts claming that they have no interest in this game or will not buy the sequel.

Funny

Originally Posted by JtD

LOL, where do you live? In the real world it is you don't make money, you're out. Team scattered, and not a single patch for anyone this way. Meeting deadlines for milestones is a necessity in business, and I'm pretty sure if the choice was up to luthier and his crew, it would be different.

Maybe you can change the deadline for the next milestone if you write a nice letter to luthiers bosses, but I'm fairly certain they will only appreciate it for comical value.

Glad you find it funny, but I suspect because of the awful mess that is CLOD and the amount of time it has taken to still not fix it, and the missing features and the dumbing down of graphics, the poor netcode, the lack of coop's, poor campaign's, the broken GUI in single player etc etc, that the sales of the sequel will reflect what I consider to be rather shoddy treatment from the dev's. If you consider the above to be good for business then you are deluded.

[kestrel79]

Originally Posted by kendo65

The strange thing is that it was already said months ago (by luthier) that the sequel would install on top of COD and update it (and that it would also be a standalone product for those who didn't have COD), yet somehow in the intervening period that all became open to doubt again...I think because B6 felt he did not have authority to comment about it when asked in various threads...crazy?!

So, I'm glad that people are relieved to have it confirmed but it's not news to me.

I remember hearing this too Kendo. This was announced months ago. But I think all the rumors and speculation about the sequel being an MMO made people think it could be something completely new and leave CoD out in the dust. Good to hear that's not the case.

Remember a few months ago when this board thought the plug was being pulled? This place is insane. But that's what happens when you get minimal updates.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Glad you find it funny, but I suspect because of the awful mess that is CLOD and the amount of time it has taken to still not fix it, and the missing features and the dumbing down of graphics, the poor netcode, the lack of coop's, poor campaign's, the broken GUI in single player etc etc, that the sales of the sequel will reflect what I consider to be rather shoddy treatment from the dev's. If you consider the above to be good for business then you are deluded.

No matter how hard they try they just can't get you to leave.

[csThor]

Look Tree ... when luthier's bosses put down their foot and demand a resource switch to something that may bring fresh revenue as opposed to something that doesn't he is not in the position to refuse. Unless you're your own boss you are in a similar state of dependence to those who pay your wages.

For the people who make such decisions at 1C the question of longetivity of a gaming genre or a certain branch of software is of secondary importance (it may be nice but only to bind customers and perhaps generate more money). If the sequel is another dud and fails to generate income they will simply move on to other projects and either reassign Maddox Games to something that's potentially profitable (like some shooter spin-off for the brain-dead) or close MG as a department for good. 1C isn't going to die because Il-2 CloD hasn't been up to specs, it's just a financial loss - nothing more. These suits don't really care about what customers of past titles think, they look for return of their investments and if anyone who has already paid is unhappy then it's too bad for that person. Don't you watch real life news and know what business is like?

[BH_woodstock]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

You forgot a very important part of running a business here Luthier, you missed out the word 'CUSTOMERS'. After selling us this product with no mention of any of the problems that you were fully aware of you should put your CUSTOMERS before anything else. You have failed to do that in my honest opinion, your priority for the last 18 months should have been all hands on deck fixing what you sold us rather than concentrating on your next money making scheme.

well said.I feel used and cheated.You promised us a game and we took the bait based on il2's past history.You then took a beautiful sim and ruined it and promising us a fix it all this time and knowing it would never happen.Shame on you.you cannot sell a product and then say we will fix it if you buy the next version.that is poppycock.


since you guys have not kept ONE promise. and not fixed anything.How about releasing the tools so we can do it ourselves.(this was also promised by Oleg himself)He said the tools will be released.There are guys here that can fix this game (modding community)So with that being said...Thanks for nothing.Do the right thing and release the tools so the game will be fixed.Be honorable after all that is what this community is based on we should except nothing less.

i will buy the next version only because i am still hopeful.but i still feel jipped.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Caveat emptor.