sound radar is back ... naaaaaaah!

[klem]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

I hve read nearly a thousand of aero books. 80% of wich are not with me at present time. Are you torturing me wih that request ?

Looking at your vid, you can hear the whispering once only the plane did pass in front the observer (the cameraman) and not before. This means tht the whine is affected by mach hence the most probable prop related effect (if the LE was mach effected all the wing would be )

I will stand firm on that (no ego related - just logics)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F4U_Corsair
The Japanese allegedly nicknamed it "Whistling Death", for the noise made by airflow through the wing root-mounted oil cooler air intakes.

The only sound I've heard from prop tips going through the sound barrier is on the Harvard/T6 which gives a kind of rasping effect.

(we must stop meeting like this!)

[PolishEagle1939]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

I hve read nearly a thousand of aero books. 80% of wich are not with me at present time. Are you torturing me wih that request ?

Looking at your vid, you can hear the whispering once only the plane did pass in front the observer (the cameraman) and not before. This means tht the whine is affected by mach hence the most probable prop related effect (if the LE was mach effected all the wing would be )

I will stand firm on that (no ego related - just logics)

Or actually the sound comes out the back end of oil cooler and you dont hear it as much from the front. Also said you read it made the noise in a dive. In the video the plane is in level flight and making the noise so maybe the thing you read was referring to another noise. I'm sure we've read alot of the same books (big Corsair fan too) but just have never heard it said it was prop noise, always read the oil cooler made the noise as Wikipedia says.
Cheers

[EZ1]

I can hear other planes all around me at close range. I could hear them in 46 also. It saved my butt many times. It does seem a bit unrealistic considering how much noise those old engines produced.

[Hellbender]

I heard several times on ATAG TS 3 that people are using the Sound Radar constantly when they shouted, "I hear a 109 behind me".

For the moment, we have to live with that problem, but for the next patch, I´m confident that the devs are fixing that issue.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Strange.....there don't seem to be any Spit or Hurri pilots complaining -- and that's shameful! Getting shot down from behind seems a small price to pay for the sake of realism, IMHO.

[Osprey]

I was on stage on Saturday night for a sound check and I couldn't hear myself sing because the monitor was too low against my guitar amp, which was hurting my ears bad.

Did I help anything in this discussion?

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by klem

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F4U_Corsair
The Japanese allegedly nicknamed it "Whistling Death", for the noise made by airflow through the wing root-mounted oil cooler air intakes.

The only sound I've heard from prop tips going through the sound barrier is on the Harvard/T6 which gives a kind of rasping effect.

(we must stop meeting like this!)

Having been at Duxford many times (as I'm sure many others have too) I have to say I don't think that the Corsair really whistles all that much on a high speed pass. The Bearcat on the other hand makes a distinctive whistle, I have a nice video of it somewhere.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I was on stage on Saturday night for a sound check and I couldn't hear myself sing because the monitor was too low against my guitar amp, which was hurting my ears bad.

Did I help anything in this discussion?

Nice one pal

As for the 'radar' - should be fixed. I am only able to hear an aircraft if they get close enough, in case it's a 109 on my six it's too late. I would say 50 meters in a Hurricane with open canopy. I am able to tell tha DB apart from a Merlin - didn't do anything with my sound settings. I think one could hear a plane in front of him (tight scissors and similar situations) but definitely not behind him.

As for open canopy on RAF - as someone remarked, you can hear better, but many including myself do that simply to get better view.

Originally Posted by Robo.

Nice one pal

As for the 'radar' - should be fixed. I am only able to hear an aircraft if they get close enough, in case it's a 109 on my six it's too late. I would say 50 meters in a Hurricane with open canopy. I am able to tell tha DB apart from a Merlin - didn't do anything with my sound settings. I think one could hear a plane in front of him (tight scissors and similar situations) but definitely not behind him.

As for open canopy on RAF - as someone remarked, you can hear better, but many including myself do that simply to get better view.

which is no better than improving one's sound radar imho. You take profit from the lacks of the current engine that does not provide for additional drag or for additional buffeting sound with open cockpit.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

which is no better than improving one's sound radar imho. You take profit from the lacks of the current engine that does not provide for additional drag or for additional buffeting sound with open cockpit.

I don't take any advantage, I just fly my Hurricane the best I can. As I say, I don't mind (wouldn't mind as it's not there) the drag as 109 is still faster than me. I enjoy the visibility though (you can lean out a bit).

My post was more about yes I've got the radar and I don't like it.