Il-2 Sturmovik Battle over Britain very close to release

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

You also said it's vaporware.

It almost was. Oleg mentioned at SimHQ that during the big blackout, the project was halted by two particularly troublesome staff members and they caused it to be very nearly dropped altogether. It wasn't until they were finally removed that work was able to resume and he could speak about the project again.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

It almost was. Oleg mentioned at SimHQ that during the big blackout, the project was halted by two particularly troublesome staff members and they caused it to be very nearly dropped altogether. It wasn't until they were finally removed that work was able to resume and he could speak about the project again.

Way over dramatized, yes the developer removed two troublesome staff members, that may or may not have been key people. That may of had its part in delaying SOW, but I highly doubt this would have spelled the demise of a project headed by Oleg and Luthier.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by IceFire

I have a question... why is "everyone" fed up waiting for this game to come out?

Triggaar mentioned it: It blocks our Investment in new parts.

I'd would like to switch from 4 to 6 core, and also throw out my 260.
Unfurnately I cant justify to buy card since I don't know which card is needed for SoW.

For instance:

In case of a release 1stQ 2011 I will just wait.

Incase of 2ndQ 2011, I could just buy a 470 now, enjoy it for 6months, and get a new one when the game is out.

But I dont know the release date!

Sure I could just buy the 470, but then oleg surprises us with a February release and I have to buy a new card again.

Even if you sell an almost unused card you'll lose at least 30% which is in the 3digit range.

Or I could buy a 580 today, which offers performance I dont need(now) for a price I dont have to pay, because I don't need it before July - again 3digit loss.


So, you see several parts are affected, also their prices detoriate pretty fast. If you add it up, we're talking about a potential $300+ we lose just because we bought them too early. Even worse if they cant do the job...

We cant plan and therefore are screwed either way - it's just not cool.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by swiss

Triggaar mentioned it: It blocks our Investment in new parts.

I'd would like to switch from 4 to 6 core, and also throw out my 260.
Unfurnately I cant justify to buy card since I don't know which card is needed for SoW.

For instance:

In case of a release 1stQ 2011 I will just wait.

Incase of 2ndQ 2011, I could just buy a 470 now, enjoy it for 6months, and get a new one when the game is out.

But I dont know the release date!

Sure I could just buy the 470, but then oleg surprises us with a February release and I have to buy a new card again.

Even if you sell an almost unused card you'll lose at least 30% which is in the 3digit range.

Or I could buy a 580 today, which offers performance I dont need(now) for a price I dont have to pay, because I don't need it before July - again 3digit loss.


So, you see several parts are affected, also their prices detoriate pretty fast. If you add it up, we're talking about a potential $300+ we lose just because we bought them too early. Even worse if they cant do the job...

We cant plan and therefore are screwed either way - it's just not cool.

I understand your point, but isn't the 260 good enough for a few more months? Maybe the Simhq interview out in a few weeks, will provide a better idea of the SOW release time frame.

[TeeJay82]

How can this block your investment of new parts?

just wait to buy em till the game comes out if your waiting for it
if you play other games and need upgrades, upgrade
sosh...

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by TeeJay82

How can this block your investment of new parts?

just wait to buy em till the game comes out if your waiting for it

But a lot of us have already waited a long time to upgrade, and it could be another year yet, so we can't just keep waiting (our systems are grinding to a halt). As swiss said, do we buy stop gap parts to tide us over, because by the time it's out there will be better hardware available, or is it close enough to release that we should get the best we can now?

The point is that these are not difficult questions for the developers to answer (ie, rough timeframe).

[Skoshi Tiger]

It's all very easy. If you need (or want) to upgrade now you upgrade, if you don't then you will get more technology for your dollar if you wait. It's been the rule of thumb since computers were invented.

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

The point is that these are not difficult questions for the developers to answer (ie, rough timeframe).

But look back on the history of how 'rough timeframe’ released by Oleg and co have been treated by the community. A 'maybe' is treated like something set in stone. 'Should' is translated as definitely.

How can you give a timeline when optimising a section of code or removing a bug may require a whole section of the programme to be re-written using a different algorithm?

When Oleg and his Publisher (who ever that may be) are confident of a release date, they will probably tell us. Be Sure!

[TeeJay82]

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

The point is that these are not difficult questions for the developers to answer (ie, rough timeframe).

wasnt there a release date set in 2006?

i understand you... but looks like you just have to make a choice...

wait or act now...

ive probably built 5 gaming rigs while waiting for SOW... enjoying other games in the meantime ofc

[swiss]

Originally Posted by TeeJay82

ive probably built 5 gaming rigs while waiting for SOW... enjoying other games in the meantime ofc

Fine, but many ppl here are focused on SoW and are also willing to throw a 4digit investment at it.
They justify the investment only with SoW. No storm of war, no expensive rig.
In my case that means I'd like to upgrade for a certain sum, however SoW would easily double this sum.
Yes, I do play a few other games, yes I could use a better card, but those games alone dont justify a $600 card(plus CPU etc)
Trigaar f.i. needs a new system(I guess), but he wants it to be tailored for SoW, just like many of us.


Till today, we don't have slightest clue of system requirements - I mean, they are already debugging, how much can still change?

Heck, even a timeframe from announcement to release would help.
Like; from the time the dedicated hp is running it will take 12(or whatever)weeks till it hits the shelves.
They don't even have guess here - this timeframe is absolute.

[Chivas]

Optimization is one of the last things done, and one of the most important aspects of figuring out system specs. We all know that this game will be very demanding, so we could assume the developers are working overtime to get as many possible frames per sec possible. The last thing the developer needs is a sim that will not run properly on average systems. So either you have to optimize as much as possible and/or start dumbing down features until computers become more powerful.