Information on period pilot maps - Page 6

mazex · #51 10-22-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

The Germans sure have stiff silk

Well, seriously I have an old map of Sweden from around WWI and it is paper on linen too... Anyway, the bang for bucks index for doing that today is ridiculous so thick paper will be fine for me at least!

C_G · #52 10-22-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mazex

Anyway, the bang for bucks index for doing that today is ridiculous so thick paper will be fine for me at least!

I agree with this.
High quality colour reproductions of period Luftwaffe and RAF maps on stiff paper would be perfect. At full 1:1 scale, please. Not shrunk down to an A8 (ie:8 inch by 11 inch) sheet.

I know that I'll use mine so as not to have to have a virtual map up on the screen. I'll cover it in matt plastic so I can draw navigational information on it for each flight (and for durability).

Something like that really adds "value" to a boxed version, imo, as it increases the immersion in-game. Which is why I strongly feel that full scale reproductions of the maps for each side, folded to fit the retail box, are highly preferable to useless but pretty "shrunk to size" maps.

The "authenticity" of the material of the map doesn't concern me so much. Stiff paper will be fine, no need for linen-backed 1940s-grade paper made from Canadian-pine fiber paper

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Just my $0.02,

Thanks,
C_G

Dano · #53 10-22-2010, 04:02 PM

Just spoken to my grandfather who said they were paper on fabric (sort of bandage-iy fabric, his words) during his time with the RAF, escape kit maps were silk.

philip.ed · #54 10-22-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dano

Just spoken to my grandfather who said they were paper on fabric (sort of bandage-iy fabric, his words) during his time with the RAF, escape kit maps were silk.

The Fabric was linen.

blades96 · #55 10-23-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by winny

British Escape maps were originally printed on silk (that was deemed unfit for parachutes) as silk became rarer they later printed them on Rayon.

They used pectin mixed with the ink which stopped bleed.

They also printed some on tissue.

Here's an early bartholomew Map

Got most of the info from here

The actual pilot's map was usually printed on heat treated paper but this varied from country to country.

A cursory search (I'm not an expert) throws up this item on auction.

http://www.ima-usa.com/product_info....oducts_id/2114

Includes some information on how they were made (sewn selvage hem) as well as some close-up images.

SlipBall · #56 10-23-2010, 07:39 PM

Nice!...seems like a fair price for a un-used map

Osprey · #57 10-23-2010, 08:47 PM

Luthier, if you decide it's not possible to print on cloth, and we know that paper just won't last, then consider printing on Tyvek. http://www2.dupont.com/Tyvek/en_US/index.html

Sounds an interesting propsal to make the product more special - Fabulous

WTE_Galway · #58 10-24-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed

The Fabric was linen.

One other comment.

In most maps I have seen the backing was STARCHED linen. the starching was used to stiffen it.

philip.ed · #59 10-25-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

One other comment.

In most maps I have seen the backing was STARCHED linen. the starching was used to stiffen it.

Good point

winny · #60 10-25-2010, 11:58 AM

Actually, if you're thinking of giving us some nice stuff in the box how about getting some SoW BoB pilots wings made up ?