Friday 2010-03-05 Screenshots/Video and Discussion Thread

[BigC208]

Nice update, looking at that armored vehicle made me wonder. Are the engine cowl panel and other panels on aircraft removable? Might look nice on an airport with mechanics working on the aircraft. Or have a build in viewer where you can get a close look at all the parts.

This sim series is probably going to have a 10 year lifespan so they better take their time to get the basics right. I get the feeling that Oleg needs to get this sim out of the door this year, for economics reasons. Preferably around the 70th anniversary of the BoB. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for an August or September release. I Don't expect a hard release date before they have the Alpha version up and running.

Patience is a virtue. Oleg, keep the updates coming and take all the time you need to give us a bug free experience.

I would of thought that if the game is going to be released in August or September then the game would be in beta phase so showing a short movie showing a moving dogfight wouldn't be an issue, unless of course Oleg cannot show it because he isn't at that stage yet, in which case a release this year seems unlikely.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Dear Oleg,

as you maybe remember I told you on your photo forum that I work in the movie industry. My identity is not important for the public on the forum, and really doesn't make any difference here. Anyway, I had several times the occasion to read internet critics about WIP stuff or finished stuff I worked on, and several times I was astonished of the "interpretations" of "facts" some people seem to have with 100% conviction -- just that they were plain wrong -- because I actually knew the real facts. On some occasions it can hurt, and sometimes I posted back. The "public" is a strange animal - to be handled with extreme caution. Love and hate are close together. Some people just think you "owe" them something personally. Not unlikely a guy who thinks he already paid you for a job and you better get it done, or...! Of course they live in a fantasy world with an idea of a personal relationship that only exists in their head. Read it, take a walk, come back, laugh about it, and continue to do exactly what you want. Best strategy.

The update you posted is really nice. I am extremely impressed by the physics that affect even vehicles that way. I can only imagine what this means for the rest of the game world in SOW -- and that is for me, the real good news.

Keep it coming!

[AdMan]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

Dear Oleg,

as you maybe remember I told you on your photo forum that I work in the movie industry. My identity is not important for the public on the forum, and really doesn't make any difference here. Anyway, I had several times the occasion to read internet critics about WIP stuff or finished stuff I worked on, and several times I was astonished of the "interpretations" of "facts" some people seem to have with 100% conviction -- just that they were plain wrong -- because I actually knew the real facts. On some occasions it can hurt, and sometimes I posted back. The "public" is a strange animal - to be handled with extreme caution. Love and hate are close together. Some people just think you "owe" them something personally. Not unlikely a guy who thinks he already paid you for a job and you better get it done, or...! Of course they live in a fantasy world with an idea of a personal relationship that only exists in their head. Read it, take a walk, come back, laugh about it, and continue to do exactly what you want. Best strategy.

The update you posted is really nice. I am extremely impressed by the physics that affect even vehicles that way. I can only imagine what this means for the rest of the game world in SOW -- and that is for me, the real good news.

Keep it coming!

^Steven Spielberg!?

[Abbeville-Boy]

thanks for the update Oleg.

[daidalos.team]

HFC, with IL-2 and SOW developments you had and continue to have a rare opportunity in game industry world to take a peek behind the scenes and see how a flight sim is being born from basic 3D meshes to final animated models placed in the virtual environment.

Other developers show you some fancy but useless Holywood style trailer videos (that are just pure commercial trash) couple months prior to release. Such information as Oleg Maddox is presenting is very interesting to many of us and less interesting to some. But none of us has a right to "have concerns or objections with WIP developments". We are not WIP product customers.

You may judge the final product because you have paid for it. But you have no real reason to judge how the developer works, speculate what is or isn't completed and what he should show to us before he is finished and sells the game to you.

I believe it's clear to see where SoW is heading with such great details on ground vehicles and what opportunities the new game engine brings.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by AdMan

^Steven Spielberg!?

No - he speaks better english, hehe.

[ECV56_Lancelot]

Originally Posted by AdMan

^Steven Spielberg!?

I thought on James Cameron!

[Mango]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

The "public" is a strange animal - to be handled with extreme caution. Love and hate are close together. Some people just think you "owe" them something personally. Not unlikely a guy who thinks he already paid you for a job and you better get it done, or...! Of course they live in a fantasy world with an idea of a personal relationship that only exists in their head. Read it, take a walk, come back, laugh about it, and continue to do exactly what you want. Best strategy.

Excellent post, KOM.Nausicaa! I'd also like to add that for every impatient "expert" who thinks he can speak for the rest of us, there are many of us who silently gaze on the Friday updates with great satisfaction.

I've been waiting more than 5 years for this puppy, and of course the initial excitement has worn off. But it's not about the novelty, it's about the detail (which we see every week), the immersion of the sim, and that history that we learn! These are the things that kept IL-2 alive for so long.

Remember, this time last year SoW still a myth to the general public. Now we've been getting WiP updates EVERY SINGLE FRIDAY! What other developer takes the time to do that?

Updates or no updates, just knowing this software project is coming together is good enough for me. The thought of having this on my PC by October makes me giddy!!

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by Mango

Excellent post, KOM.Nausicaa! I'd also like to add that for every impatient "expert" who thinks he can speak for the rest of us, there are many of us who silently gaze on the Friday updates with great satisfaction.

I've been waiting more than 5 years for this puppy, and of course the initial excitement has worn off. But it's not about the novelty, it's about the detail (which we see every week), the immersion of the sim, and that history that we learn! These are the things that kept IL-2 alive for so long.

Don't want to distract the discussion further from the important topic: ie SOW and the details in this week's update, but as I may be one of the 'impatient "expert(s)" ' to whom you refer (and that other people have commented on) I'd like to comment a little on my reaction to the update.

The video of the armoured car was found by someone on youtube and linked to from 1C forum 30 minutes before Oleg had got the official update link in place.

[see
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=13668
]

The battle-damaged He-111 was revealed in one of the pics in last week's interview.

Given that, my honest initial reaction to this week's update could be described as less than excited. However I believe my comments were balanced and not unduly critical of Oleg or the update itself. I certainly don't consider myself an 'expert' and I was not attempting to speak for anyone other than myself.

I'm aware that Oleg is treading a line with these updates between playing it safe, and revealing features before they are fine-tuned and ready. I'm grateful that he takes the time.