4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[jameson]

We could have wind and clouds that move, and rain. Anyone recall the bonus disc with 4.07?

[FlyingRustBucket]

How about more filters while searching planes, like heavy bombers, jets, attackers and so on and so forth. It would also be very usefull especially in full mission builder on all the objects.

[greybeard307]

One thing I would like to see is are changes to the damage models and reporting. I have never seen "coolant leak" or 'hydraulic faliure" or had a burst tyre or brake failure or seen my windscreen covered by an oil leak, and in all the literature I have read over the years these were the things that were reported to have happened, or how about radio failure or oxygen system failed, or am I being too picky ?

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by greybeard307

One thing I would like to see is are changes to the damage models and reporting. I have never seen "coolant leak" or 'hydraulic faliure" or had a burst tyre or brake failure or seen my windscreen covered by an oil leak, and in all the literature I have read over the years these were the things that were reported to have happened, or how about radio failure or oxygen system failed, or am I being too picky ?

Random failures due to factors other than combat aren't currently modeled in the game. I think they could be, but they'd mostly apply to hard-core online simmers, since just about everyone else would just reload the mission when a random failure occurs.

Hydraulic failure on landing gear due to combat damage is modeled in the game as of the 4.12 patch, but I don't believe that it's modeled for other systems. It's a nice effect - at least when you're the shooter .

Oxygen and radio systems currently aren't modeled in the game. Like fuel transfer or electrical systems, it would take a LOT of work to implement them, since new damage models and damage effects would be needed for just about all the planes in the game.

Realistically, it would be difficult to model night fighter operations without better modeling of radio and radar systems. And, to a lesser extent, electrical systems.

[ElAurens]

In the original release of IL2, it was possible to foul spark plugs on a cold engine. It was kind of pointless as all you had to do was hit "refly" to get a fresh plane.

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by greybeard307

I have never seen ... my windscreen covered by an oil leak...

Try the Bf 109. The oil on the windsreen obstructs your view so much that even a crash landing is hardly possible. Maybe the effect is realistic that way, but I have the impression that the chance to have it is a bit too high: a single LMG hit into the engine cowling can make you a flying blind pig.

Anyway, has anyone ever encountered this 'oil on the windsreen' effect on planes other than the 109 (or, possibly, the 190)?

[ElAurens]

The KI 61 will oil it's windscreen.

There are a couple of others.

Remember that the oil reservior tank on 109s is on top of the cowling near the prop spinner. One bullet there and you should have an oiled screen.

[greybeard307]

Thanks for your replies gents. I was thinking more in terms of combat damage to coolant systems on water cooled aircraft rather than random reliability issues, though the valve equipped radios of the day were known to be of limited use even when working, hence Sakai ditching his and sawing off the aerial. I have encountered times when combat damage has caused an engine to over rev but the types of damage seem to be confined to control surface and weapon damage although fuel leak reports cover fuel lines as well as fuel tank damage.

[Janosch]

Originally Posted by sniperton

The oil on the windsreen obstructs your view so much that even a crash landing is hardly possible.

No it doesn't, just a few splotches, and it doesn't get worse as time goes by

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by Janosch

No it doesn't, just a few splotches, and it doesn't get worse as time goes by

Okay, I should have said 'a real challenge' instead of 'hardly possible', but anyway, a blocked lower forward view is a major obstacle in landings, even if you have 6DoF, right?