If you have any questions re: WotN, submit them here for the devs!

[Totoro]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

Yes bugfixes based on fixes players posted on forum, and after being pointed out by those same players.

Doesn't that prove they are reading our posts?

If you buy new car and with it come little book with suggestions how to fix problems that will happen, will you say that is good product ? And when you run into problems, you go to shop and there is no one to help you. Same thing here. You give your money for something and then realize it`s not working, crash/block and cause lots of problems. Do you suggest merchant that sold you that product should be praised if you fix your problems by communicating with other customers?

You could ask for a refund because the product is not what they promised.
Usually if you buy a car and it's not functioning like promised, you get a refund.

Personally I don't mind waiting for bug fixes.

This is open forum, and it doesnt take lots of resources to communicate with each other. You can claim they dont have internet connection available, to read/reply to our posts.

They would have to hire a specific person to communicate with players.

And who said they are low budget team ???
1c is leading software publisher for Russia and eastern Europe, i`m sure they could afford 2-3 test players to try tihs bug infested game before activating it on steam for purchase.

1C company is also a publisher of many other games than KB like IL-2 Sturmovik which has a lot larger playerbase than KB.

And you can usually tell a game's budget just by looking at its graphics.

[Fatt_Shade]

Doesn't that prove they are reading our posts?

Yes they are reading posts, but it`s not players job to fix things. If i spend some gold to buy game, i expect it to work at least. Not spend my income, and then spend time to make that same product work.

You could ask for a refund because the product is not what they promised.
Usually if you buy a car and it's not functioning like promised, you get a refund.

I dont want refund i want functional product (as 995 of players).

They would have to hire a specific person to communicate with players.

You`re kidding right ? Programing studio, hiring person for their PR with player base on forum ???

1C company is also a publisher of many other games than KB like IL-2 Sturmovik which has a lot larger playerbase than KB.
And you can usually tell a game's budget just by looking at its graphics.

I know they develop other games , but does any of those have so much problems working as this?
And my claim was on testing game before releasing it, not specific on budget for graphic improvements. 2 days after release there was list at least 100 bugs in game from players. Yo cant tell me this couldnt be avoided, with simple beta test.

[Totoro]

@Fatt_Shade

You don't need to spend your time to fix bugs. Just do other things and they get fixed in the meantime.

They could have spend more effort on bugs before releasing the game but then the release would have been postponed.

I don't think there is much difference whether you buy the game few months earlier and wait few months for bugs to get fixed or whether you buy the game few months later and get a bugfree game.
Actually, I think the option to release a game with bugs is better because then players who don't care about them, can play anyway and those who care, can wait for them to get fixed.

It's also possible that they were aware that the game has many bugs but decided to release it anyway because players kept asking about the release.

You`re kidding right ? Programing studio, hiring person for their PR with player base on forum ???

Well, imagine you would be a developer. You get paid for developing the game, not keeping contact with players. Would you bother to visit forums to calm down players?

[Fatt_Shade]

@Totoro

You don't need to spend your time to fix bugs. Just do other things and they get fixed in the meantime.

Well if players didnt fix things in bugstread, i`m positively sure it wouldnt be done at all (or at least much later) considering devs interaction with players so far.

Actually, I think the option to release a game with bugs is better because then players who don't care about them, can play anyway and those who care, can wait for them to get fixed.

How can you state this? There is many posts about crashes on ice dragon bug, or in fight with Eric, or Loki later in game, and those are some battles/quests needed to continue in game, and if they are bugged and crash your game every time you kil ice drago,no or attack Loki how are you supposed to play game ignoring bugs if there is no way to continue due to that bug ?

Well, imagine you would be a developer. You get paid for developing the game, not keeping contact with players. Would you bother to visit forums to calm down players?

Well if they get paid for this kind of job then at least do it right. If not then check on player base response and see what you f...ed up in delevoping said game. And they did f..k up big time with this release.

[Totoro]

Well if players didnt fix things in bugstread, i`m positively sure it wouldnt be done at all (or at least much later) considering devs interaction with players so far.

I disagree, just players reporting bugs is enough I think.

How can you state this? There is many posts about crashes on ice dragon bug, or in fight with Eric, or Loki later in game, and those are some battles/quests needed to continue in game, and if they are bugged and crash your game every time you kil ice drago,no or attack Loki how are you supposed to play game ignoring bugs if there is no way to continue due to that bug ?

It's a problem indeed if you can't continue. However, some people have completed the game regardless of bugs.

Well if they get paid for this kind of job then at least do it right. If not then check on player base response and see what you f...ed up in delevoping said game. And they did f..k up big time with this release.

There has never been a game which wouldn't have bugs no matter how good the devs are. They just get fixed before the game is released which is not the case in this game.
They could have fixed them before release. But then the release would have been postponed and I think the bugs get fixed faster this way because players are actively reporting them.

[trucane]

Originally Posted by Totoro

@Fatt_Shade

Well, afaik they never claimed it would be King's Bounty 2.

Also I think you can agree with me that many comments here are expressions of frustration, including mocking, instead of just stating facts.

What? Are you stupid or something? You can just start counting and you will have your facts. Does this game have worse english than the earlier games? Yes and that's a fact. Does it have more bugs? Yes just check the complaints or even better try playing it after having played the earlier games.

No one is mocking the game but it's a no brainer that this game was rushed and quite possibly developed by a less experienced team

[Totoro]

No one is mocking the game but it's a no brainer that this game was rushed and quite possibly developed by a less experienced team

To me calling a game crap, is mocking. Then again, I don't know what kind of culture you live in.

[westyofoz]

Originally Posted by Totoro

To me calling a game crap, is mocking. Then again, I don't know what kind of culture you live in.

We are calling the state of the game crap, not the game. The game itself is great, great story, great game play like the other King's Bounty versions, love the new units and the Valkeries. The King's Bounty series is one of my favourite four series.

However, I hate the state of the game. It was released in a crap state. This thread isn't for reporting bugs (I did that elsewhere), this thread is for telling the developers what you think and I did. I am peeved off at the blatant unfinished product.

I am sick of crashes and having to replay bits I have already done. I am annoyed of having to continual save the game every few minutes because it crashes. I made it through the game a couple of times but I have also started a few games that I have had to abandon half way through because of various bugs, eg Loki. I had to manually fix the Icedragon bug, because the game was unplayable. If you buy a game you should not have to fix it yourself!!!!!

And I could go on. If you think this is acceptable than go ahead and enjoy your bug filled game. Some of us actually expect a game to be in a good state when sold to the public. I understand their will be some hardware bugs, that can't be helped. Broken quests, crashing animations, poor coding, etc, is just not good enough. I am not happy about it. I have better things to do with my time then stuff around on broken games. I am going back to play a game that does work and continue to be disappointed that 1C has let me down.

[Fatt_Shade]

@Totoro

They could have spend more effort on bugs before releasing the game but then the release would have been postponed.
It's also possible that they were aware that the game has many bugs but decided to release it anyway because players kept asking about the release.

I`ll just say why i cant accept game being released like this form my point of view : First was announced to spring 2012 and postponed for 10 months, and we guessed it will be in great shape in the end. And then when game come out we got this bug infested thing.
My personal affront was this, i`m engineer and if i made mistake at work there could be big problems for thousands of customers losing electric power, or something similar. And after something like that, i`m sure those customers would claim me responsible. Even more i`m sure they wouldn`t be one fixing those problems.
Then I look this release and 1C as professional programing studio, and question how the hell they could do something crappy like this.

As westofoz said here

I had to manually fix the Icedragon bug, because the game was unplayable. If you buy a game you should not have to fix it yourself!!!!!

can you name me one game that have players base fixing it since day of release so it`s playable. I for sure cant think of any title like that.

[Totoro]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

@Totoro

I`ll just say why i cant accept game being released like this form my point of view : First was announced to spring 2012 and postponed for 10 months, and we guessed it will be in great shape in the end. And then when game come out we got this bug infested thing.
My personal affront was this, i`m engineer and if i made mistake at work there could be big problems for thousands of customers losing electric power, or something similar. And after something like that, i`m sure those customers would claim me responsible. Even more i`m sure they wouldn`t be one fixing those problems.
Then I look this release and 1C as professional programing studio, and question how the hell they could do something crappy like this.

As westofoz said here
can you name me one game that have players base fixing it since day of release so it`s playable. I for sure cant think of any title like that.

Players don't have to fix anything. They just seem to want to.

And of course devs are responsible for bugs. I also expect they fix them but I don't mind if they release unfinished product if they fix my product eventually.