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#41
06-12-2012, 06:53 PM
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I only reached 2175 rpm on both engines, but should reach 2200-2250 rpm. so ~ 50 rpm are missing. For everyone who want to test it too, slowly warm up with 800 rpm and pitch 12:00 to: min oil temp: 40°C max water temp: 80°C Set trim to Hecklastig (heavy tail) Pull your stick a little bit (or eat the grass  ) and push the throttle to 1,3 ata and keep it (not longer than 5 min).Check if 2200-2250 is reached. 
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#42
06-12-2012, 08:30 PM
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Anyway still looking through my manuals etc and I know ive seen a picture of the SD2 on both the 109 and 110 but need to find the proof to check the year.... This is annoying me now.
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#43
06-13-2012, 06:16 PM
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I looked into the book "Die deutsche Abwurfmunition bis 1945".
It states that the SD-2 was first used in the operation "Opernball" at the 29. october 1940. A Rotte Dornier Do 17 of the 8./KG 76 attacked the 17 parked Bristol Blenheim at the airfield Wattisham. Other small bombs which has been used from the start of the war 1939 were the B-1 E, B-1,3 E, SC-10/SD-10, SC-50 and SD-50. It is also interesting to read that the production of bombs were behind the use. At the end of the poland campaign were mostly all 20.000 bombs of the 50kg and 250kg weight used up.
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#44
06-13-2012, 07:01 PM
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as thor already mentioned, i seriously doubt that the 109 fighterbombers of the 3./ErprGrp210 and II/LG2 and the 110 fighterbombers of 1.&2./ErprGrp210 used SD2 during the summer over britain! Sure not the later fighterbombersquadrons of the JGs.......
During the BoB it was the KGs that used them - for them it would be a nice addition  For SD2 on fighterbombers we have to wait for this 'BoM' thing, i hope actually 
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#45
09-11-2012, 02:44 PM
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I had some free time with GIMP and remodelled the cockpit of the C-7.
Bf 110 C-7 CloD.jpg Cliffs of Dover original cockpit. The revamped cockpit (more to the real deal). EDIT: revamped pic deleted, see post #52 for new revamped cockpit! Last edited by Kodoss; 10-06-2012 at 02:18 PM.
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#46
09-11-2012, 02:51 PM
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would be great if all these mistakes in the cockpits (not only of the 110) will be corrected in the next patch.... but you can doubt it unfortunately :/
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#47
09-22-2012, 01:51 PM
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With this post I want to start a series of posts to show the differences in the cockpit between The Bf 110 B to F series. For the G-series I have not enough material now, but should mostly the same as the F-series. I will also go into systems and functions a little bit. I will also tell which sources I used. Help for any of series is appreciated. My planned orginazation looks like this: 1. Cockpit (pilot) 2. Cockpit (Radio/gunner) Differences of the Bf-110 B-F cockpits and the conclusions for the CloD cockpit. Let's begin by zero or better said with the Bf 110 B. My sources for today: The drawings: are from the "Betriebs- und Rüstanleitung Bf-110 B mit Jumo 210 G" Dec/1938 The picture: is from "L.Dv.579/1 Bf 110 B und C Bedienvorschrift für starre und bewegliche Schußwaffe" Dec/1938. Can also be seen in "Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau. For adding the Fl-number I used the model-code and searched through "Flugzeug-Ausrüstungsgeräte und Anforderungszeichen Mappe 1-3, 10" If anyone of you have a copy of a " Bf-110 B spare parts catalog", please PM me. A little description from my side: 16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L2 PFK/f3 16 = Number of the picture b = position in the picture Patin-Tochterkompaß = the Name of the object L2 = electrical position for the wiring diagram PFK/f3 = model FL 23338 = military standart spare part number (makes it easy to identify especially when you have "Flugzeug-Ausrüstungsgeräte und Anforderungszeichen Mappe 1-3, 10") Cockpit left: Bf 110 B manual cockpit left.jpg 3a) Hebelkasten mit Gas-, Laderschalt- und Brandhahnhebeln (lever box for gas(2), gear(1) and fuel-shut-off lever(2)) 3b) Bedienhebel für Höhenhilfsruder (elevator trim) 3c) Boschhorn E26 (signal horn) 3d) Unterbau (plate) 3e) Netzausschalter A35 (für Batterie) (battery off switch) 3f) Zündschalter B11/B12 (ignition switch) 3g) Schalter für Kühlklappenverstellung E37/E38(switch for watercooler) 3i) Richtungsgeber K9 LRg5 FL-22569 3h) Kursmotor K4 LKMo FL-22563 3k) Landeklappenanzeigegerät (landing flaps indicator) 3n) Handräder für Pressluft (Fahrwerk-/Landeklappennotbetätigung) (emergency wheels for pressed air to landing gear and landing flaps) 3o) Manometer für Pressluft (gauge for pressed air) 3p) Laderbedienhebel (Laderschalthebel) (engine gear selector) 3q) Bowdenzug Cockpit right: Bf 110 B manual cockpit right.jpg 4a) Handpumpenhebel (fuelpump lever) 4b) Hebel für Kraftstoffventilbatterie (fueltank selector lever) 4c) Bedienhebel für Seitenhilfruder (rudder trim) 4d) Empfindlichkeitsregler für Wendezeiger (sensitivity regulator for turn and bank indicator) 4e) Ausgleichsgefäß für Variometer (adjustment tank for variometer) 4f) Höhenatmer (oxygen breather) 4g) Füllstutzen-Zapfenventil für Höhenatmer (fill vent for oxygen breather) 4h) Vierfachschaltkasten A36 mit selbstschalter für Staurrohrheizung, Gerätebrettlampen, Triebwerksbeleuchtung, Kennlichter und Scheinwerfer from front to rear 1.) Scheinwerfer (landing light) 2.) Kennlichter (navigational lights) 3.) Gerätebrett-/Motorgondelbeleuchtung (lights for intrument board and engine intrument board) 4.) Staurohrheizung (pitot tube heater) additionally 5.) Starre waffe P2 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns) 6.) Starre Waffe P1 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns) 4i) Anlaßschalter (starter switch) 4k) Unterbau (plate) 4m) Druckknopf C19 für 17c) Lampen C20/C21/C22/C23 4n) Hauptschalter (für Kurssteuerung) K7 LSch4ü FL-22559-1 (Main switch for autopilot) 4o) Anlaßpumpe (starter pump) Cockpit front: Bf 110 B manual cockpit front.jpg 16a) Fernkurskreisel K8 LKu4 FL-22561 (directional gyro) 16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L2 PFK/f3 FL-23338 16c) Kompaß (compass) 16d) Fahrwerksanzeigegerät E23 (landing gear indicator) 16e) Borduhr (clock) 16f) Drehzahlmesser M19/M20 (rev counter) 16g) Verdunkler C11 16h) Reststandsanzeiger links M14 (low fuel indicator left) 16i) Reststandsanzeiger rechts M15 (low fuel indicator right) 16k) Notzugknopf für Rudermaschine (emergency pull button for rudder engine(part of the auto pilot)) 16l) Ladedruckmesser (boost gauges) 16m) Vorratsanzeiger für Kraftstoff vorne (front fuel indicator) M21 16n) Vorratsanzeiger für Kraftstoff hinten (rear fuel indicator) M23 16o) Kurszeiger K6 LKz3 (course indicator) 16p) elektr. Anzeigegeräte E19/E20 für Luftschraubenverstellung (elect. Propeller pitch indicator) 16q) Staurohrheizungslampe D3 (pitot heater control lamp) 16r) Wendezeiger (turn and bank indicator) 16s) Variometer (rate of climb meter) 16t) Fein-Grobhöhenmesser (altimeter) 16u) Horizont (artificial horizon) 16v) Fahrtmesser (airspeed indicator) 16w) Kühlwassertemperatur (coolant temp gauge) 16x) Anzeiger für Funknavigation (radio navigation indicator) 16Y) Feststellhebel für Horizont (artificial horizon on-off switch) Bf 110 B cockpit.jpg Engine gauges: Bf 110 B manual engine gauges.jpg 17a) Gerätebrett 17c) Lampen C20/C22 bzw. C21/C23 (lamps) 17d) Druckausgleichsventil (pressure valve) 17e) Mech. Anzeigegerät für Luftschraubenverstellung (mech. propeller pitch indicator) gauges below, front to rear: 1.) Kraftstoff-/Schmierstoffdruckmesser (double gauge Fuel/oil pressure) 2.) Schmierstoff-Ein/Austrittstemperatur (double gauge oil-in/oil-out-temp) 17f) Generator 30V 1200W 17g) Belüftungsrohr für Generator (coolant air tube for generator) 17h) Biegsame Welle zum Verstellmotor Next will be Cockpit(Pilot) of the Bf 110 C-series.
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#48
09-23-2012, 09:21 AM
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The cockpit(pilot) of the C-series
Sources for this post: "Instructions for flying the Messerschmitt 110 A.M. pamphlet 114C" "Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau Let's begin with a nice picture from the "A.M. Pamphlet 114C" which shows most probably a C-5(missing cannon round indicator). The pic can also be found in Kenneth A. Merrick's book "german aircraft interiors"/"deutsche Flugzeug-Cockpits"(book is also translated into german). If it would be a D-series you would see the 2 additional lamps over the horizon. And since it has so nice numbers for most of the gauges/switches I will only add the FL-#. Bf-110 C cockpit.jpg 1 FL-32315-2 6 FL-32823-2 9 9-9502 B 12 FL-20342-2 13 FL-20286-3 14 FL-20550 17 FL-32526 20 FL-29723 30 FL-23300 31 FL-22320 32 FL-23338 33 ZVK-FF 34 SSK 404/2 36 FL-22402 37 FL-22382 in this C-5 (FL-22381-10 in other C-Series? see cockpit of C-1/B) 38 most probalby FL-22426 with the on-off switch 39 40 FL-22231 41 FL-23233 43 FL-22478 The little button [Spkf 1] left to the Revi holder is for bord to bord radio. Here a little close up of the same pic in better quality. Bf-110 C cockpit closup.jpg Have a look at the rev counter (36 as the last number) and the boost gauge plate( d=1,15 ata / |=1,2 ata(30 min.)/ |=1,3 ata(5 min.) for 87 octane fuel) Now 3 pictures of C-1/B 2N+GN WNr. 2831 build at MIAG(Mühlenbau und Industrie AG) in 1939 and downed by Swiss Bf-109 E's on 8 June 1940. The interesting part are the 2 white lamps above the horizon, which shouldn'd be in the C-Series. Bf-110 C-1B Cockpit front.jpg Bf-110 C-1B cockpit left.jpg Look at which angle the landing flap indicator is still readable. Also no button box on the left side. Bf-110 C-1B cockpit right.jpg The next post will continue with the C-series cockpit(pilot) and show some manual drawings. If there are questions I will try to answer them.
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#49
09-26-2012, 05:37 PM
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Sources for today:
"vorläufige Betriebs- und Rüstanleitung Bf 110 C" - 1. June 1939 (first 4 drawings) "Betriebsanleitung Bf 110 C mit Anhang Bf 110 D-0" - Februar 1940 (last drawing) The first 4 drawings show the cockpit layout for june 1939. You see the Fernkurskreisel LKu4 still in there, like in the B-series. Left side Bf-110 C manual cockpit left.jpg 3a) Hebelkasten 3b) Gashebel (gas lever) 3c) Handpumpenhebel (hand pump lever) 3d) Brandhahnhebel (fuel-shut-off/pump lever) 3e) Ölkühlerklappenhebel (oil radiator lever) 3f) Verstellvorrichtung Höhenhilfsruder (elevator trim) 3g) Stoßstange 3h) Netzausschalter A28 3i) Handräder für Preßluftsperrventile (emergency vents for gear and flaps) 3k) Druckknopfschalter für Fahrwerk (landing gear buttons) 3m) Druckknopfschalter für Landeklappen (landing flaps button) 3n) Druckmesser (pressure gauge) 3o) Zündschalter B7/B8 3p) Boschhorn E31 3q) Richtungsgeber K2 LRg5 3r) Landeklappen-Anzeigegerät (landing gear indicator) 3s) Bowdenzug 3t) Verstellschalter E17/E18 für Propellerverstellung (prop pitch switch) Cockpit panel Bf-110 C manual cockpit front.jpg 16a) Fernkurskreisel K3 LKu4 16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L1 PfK/f3 16c) Wendezeiger 16d) position for ZVK-FF 16e) Druckmesser Pressluft 16f) Fahrwerksanzeigegerät E19 16g) Schalter E20/E22 für Kühlerklappenverstellung 16h) Drehzahlmesser M18/M19 16i) Kühlstofftemperatur-Messgerät M9 16k) Kühlstofftemperatur-Messgerät M17 16m) Reststandsanzeigegeräte M11,M12,M14,M15 16n) Umschalter M16 für Kraftstoffvorratsanzeiger 16o) Kraftstoffvorratsanzeiger M13 16p) Staurohr-Schauzeichen D3 16q) Kurszeiger K4 LKz3 16r) Notzugknopf 16s) Verstellschalter E17/E18 für Propellerverstellung 16t) elektrische Anzeigegeräte E22/E23 für Propellerverstellung above d) SSK 404/2 and Wahlschalter (main control panel for MGs and switch for 2MG-4MG) above q) Anzeiger für Funknavigation AFN1 Right side Bf-110 C manual cockpit right.jpg 17a) Bedienhebel Seitenhilfsruder (rudder trim) 17b) Höhenatmer (oxygen breather) 17c) Vierfachschaltkasten A36 mit selbstschalter für Staurrohrheizung, Gerätebrettlampen, Triebwerksbeleuchtung, Kennlichter und Scheinwerfer Switch box from front to rear 1.) Scheinwerfer (landing light) 2.) Kennlichter (navigational lights) 3.) Gerätebrett-/Motorgondelbeleuchtung (lights for intrument board and engine intrument board) 4.) Staurohrheizung (pitot tube heater) additionally 5.) Starre waffe P2 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns) 6.) Starre Waffe P1 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns) 17d) Empfindlichkeitsregler für Wendehorizont 17e) Gerätebank 17f) Verdunkler C16 17g) Schalter M25 für Kraftstoff-Umpumpanlage 17h) Hauptschalter K5 LSch4ü für Kurssteuerung/Patinkompaßanlage (main switch for auto course) 17i) Umschaltplatte 17k) Griffe für Kerzenabbrennung (ignitor cleaning handle) 17m) Füllstutzen-Zapfenventil (Höhenatmer) 17n) Fernbedienknopf für Anlaßtrennschalter A36 17o) Anlaßpumpe 17p) Schalthahn ( für Verneblerleitung? ) 17q) Anlaßschalter B9 17r) Anlaßschalter B10 Engine panel Bf-110 C manual engine gauges.jpg 11a) mechanische Anzeigevorrichtung (Fahrwerk) (mechanical indicator for landing gear / only early C-1 aircraft) 11b) Bowdenzug 11c) Gerätetafel 11d) Steckdose C7/Stecker C6 11e) Gerätelampe C2 11f) Gerätelampe C3 11g) Abzweigdose C4 11h) Gerätetafel 11i) Halterung für Gerätetafel 11k) mechanisches Anzeigegerät für Propellerverstellung (mechanical prop pitch indicator) gauges below, front to rear: 1.) Kraftstoff-/Schmierstoffdruckmesser (double gauge Fuel/oil pressure) 2.) Schmierstoff-Ein/Austrittstemperatur (double gauge oil-in/oil-out-temp, 2 pointer) And now the cockpit panel layout of "Betriebsanleitung Bf 110 C mit Anhang Bf 110 D-0" Februar 1940 Teil 9 - Ausrüstung (part 9 - equipment), side 9-01. Bf-110 C manual feb40 instruments.jpg See the new Kursgeber (course selector) below the Patin-Tochterkompaß (daughter compass). This course selector stayed until the E-series. The MG and gun counter aren't part of this manual. There are to find in "Bf 110 B und C Bedienvorschrift für die starre und bewegliche Schußwaffe, L.Dv. 579/1". Last edited by Kodoss; 09-26-2012 at 05:39 PM.
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09-30-2012, 10:36 AM
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Since the C and D series were build at the same time let us have a look at the cockpit of the D-series.
My sources for today: "Report-No. 260-28 Analysis of the Messerschmitt Me-110 Airplane" from Vultee Aircraft Inc. "Life" Magazine from 21. April 1941 Page 34/35 "Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau "Beschreibung und Einbau der Zusatzanlagen für das Flugzeugmuster Bf 110 D L.Dv.T2413/1(Entwurf) / (Nachtrag 1)" from November 1940 The first 3 pictures are from the Bf-110 D-0/B W.Nr.3341 S9+CK build in Juli 1940 and shot down on 15. August 1940. Just look at the Revi holder with the "Schwenkplatte SP 1A" for the Revi C12/D which should also be in every C-7. Bf-110 D-0B cockpit-2.jpg Bf 110 D-0B.jpg Bf-110 D-0B cockpit.jpg The only 39 new build C-7 were produced from Juli 1940 to September 1940 (see "Messerschmitt Bf 110, Me 210, Me 410" from Heinz Mankau/Peter Petrick) So we have a good look at the same equipment in the instrument panel. Here is a drawing out of the manual which shows the instrument panel of a C-series with the additional 2 lamps for the D-Series. Bf-110 D nov40.jpg In my next post I will show what we have in "Cliffs of Dover" as a cockpit for the C-7. Last edited by Kodoss; 09-30-2012 at 10:38 AM.
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