Red Tails Trailer #3

[Richie]

Originally Posted by robtek

Because it seems to be worse than pearl harbor with "hurra - patriotism" and unbelievable cgi flight scenes.

after the original (tuskegee airman), this can only leave a bad taste, imo.

I'd even prefer captain future and the world of tomorrow, there i know it is basically a comic.

+1

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by SIDWULF

It was a BS maneuver! They could of made it a bit more realistic but just as impressive by making the pilot go into a violent snap roll when the 109 was trailing him closely and then recovering just behind the 109 in time to blow his tail off. Or both of them straight vertical and the 109 drops before the P-51 and the P-51 drops right on his tail.

Just sayin.

It looks that they watched History Dogfights.

Look at 0:40 of these video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4dRE...eature=related

WW2 RL pilot said about such manouver in P-51D which he used.
It looks like one spin in deep turn but shoting and hiting someone in such manouver is like miracle.

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

It looks that they watched History Dogfights.

Look at 0:40 of these video:

WW2 RL pilot said about such manouver in P-51D which he used.
It looks like one spin in deep turn but shoting and hiting someone in such manouver is like miracle.

yep , 0.45 to 0.48 . in that time exist "Vector Thrust Aerobatic Radio" like f22???.
you cant do that shit , iven if you are flying a Fokker Dr.I

[Richie]

What JG is that?


http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtop...f=23&t=1152516


"The enemy has to be more Nazi" I love that one


Here's what I would tell a person to watch.

The old 1948 12 O Clock High

Tora Tora Tora

The Battle Of Britain

The reason why these older movies are so good imo is you actually know why things are happening and what's actually going on from both points of view in the last two films.


I wonder if the wing leader of what ever JG it is in this movie will have some sort of condition so over the RT he sounds like.....you know who

[Richie]

These 109s look great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y83r...el_video_title

[Buster_Dee]

To me, it would best serve that squadron if a film depicted how they worked out their tactics, developed new ones, trained. Research how they did things, represent it well, and let the story tell itself. Yes, maybe their success had much to do with how hard they threw themselves into a fight. But I'll bet there was a good measure of originality. Very good squadrons didn't accomplish as much. I want to see why.

[VF101-jay]

I, like the majority in this forum have never flown a P-51 in combat, so I won't assume to call a combat vet a liar when he is talking about his personal confirmed victories. I have seen stunt planes at airshows do things that I wouldn't have thought possible, who knows what one of those old warbirds could do when yanked out of it's flight envelope at over 300mph in the thin air at a couple thousand feet.

[hiro]

Originally Posted by Buster_Dee

To me, it would best serve that squadron if a film depicted how they worked out their tactics, developed new ones, trained. Research how they did things, represent it well, and let the story tell itself. Yes, maybe their success had much to do with how hard they threw themselves into a fight. But I'll bet there was a good measure of originality. Very good squadrons didn't accomplish as much. I want to see why.

Could be a God thing, why they were more successful that the average 'very good squad'. I remember one of the trailers, the whole squadron was praying . . .

[robtek]

In a war most, if not all, fighting soldiers start to pray, believers or not.

[Richie]

I see a 109 with a Totenkopf - Death Head SS Panzer insignia on the cowling and an Udet Falcon below the canopy. So I guess there was a Panzer Div. that had a few JG3 109s? How would Red Tail fans like it if this movie screwed up that bad? That super low budget "Fortress" comes out way ahead as far as doing enemy aeroplanes correctly.