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11-12-2011, 03:50 PM
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Also, Westinghouse Electric (jet engines, radars etc.) is now part of NG. These companies are not affected either: -Douglas (and McDonnell & later McDonnell-Douglas) is part of the current Boeing company. -Same for North American Aircraft, now part of Boeing. -Republic aircraft is long gone. First it was bought by Fairchild, afterwards it's been know variously as Fairchild-Dornier, M7 Aerospace and is now part of Israeli owned Elbit Systems (!) -Everything which is now part of Lockheed Martin (Lockheed and Martin atleast,  )-Curtiss-Wright is existence today also as its own. -Consolidated, Vultee (and later after these two merged, Convair) belong to General Dynamics corp. Seems that the European companies are a bit more gentle. Imagine if BAE Systems (pretty much every British company) or EADS did the same as NG did.
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11-12-2011, 04:05 PM
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Thanks for the clarification guys. Even without the aircraft affected by the Grumman issue there are more than enough other types that can be modelled. In my opinion the most important new US aircraft for the Pacific would be the Curtiss SB2C Helldiver. I never understood why it was omitted when Pacific Fighters was released.
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11-13-2011, 06:39 AM
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I don't care what you think of Northrop's CEOs or lawyers, but what's your problem with the average worker? As someone who works for a small firm manufacturing engine components, I'd be damned pleased if I ended up working for NG someday. We can't keep flying B-52s and F-15s forever. There are many, many things in America's military due to be phased out in the coming years. Having such industry here in the United States sure beats having to import everything or eventually letting our military degrade to third-world status. I just wish there hadn't been so much consolidation over the years. It wasn't that long ago when McDonnell Douglas, Grumman, North American/Rockwell International, Vought, and Republic/Fairchild were all their own companies. Last edited by NukeItFromOrbit; 11-13-2011 at 06:42 AM. |
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11-13-2011, 08:52 AM
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Don t worry about it!
Your nick tells me that you can not, will never ever even try to understand. Take your paycheck from the military industrial complex and buy some Big-Mac or KFC or what ever and sit down in front of CNN to educate yourself some more. Be happy! Viking |
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11-20-2011, 09:50 AM
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Actually I got my title from the film Aliens. Regardless, you need to get these misconceptions out of your head, you sound like some aging hippie here in the US would. You're the one not trying to understand why there this need exists for such specialized contractors in this day and age. Rather you dismiss them all as evil war profiteers or some nonsense.
I recognize the flaws and shortcomings of these companies, but I understand the need for them, and take pride in my work. As somebody who probably has an interest in aviation I'm sure you've read about engineers like Kelly Johnson and Jack Northrop. Regardless of you think of the current CEOs and bosses of these companies, surely pioneers like them were worthy of some respect. |
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11-20-2011, 05:53 PM
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interest in aviation? well i guess many of us have red a page or two about the men behind the machines.
but this modern-age moneymaking scheisse is awful. about not flying eagles forever... buy a bunch of Su-35ers instead of a single X-35. how about this though: recussitate Reginald Mitchell and take that man for a spin in a restored Merlin 60 or somesuch series Spitfire. Put him in a Griffon spitfire if you find one. What will he say? How will he react? Bring Mister Otto back for a few days (yea the guy that played a BIG role in engine creation and design) , and show him what "explosive engines" have become... how would he react? what would he think of the evolution, the impact of the machine? cars all over the world, ship engines, Bomber engines, Jet engines, modern cars and trucks? Those are the men behind the creations, and i bet if they found out that _big_ royalties have to be paid every time a toy is made "off a real world machine", they would turn over in their graves. Especially Mister Mitchell... he worked till he could no more... not asking for fortune, not asking for fame... CEOs, lawyers, banks, people amassing and herding money... just because they CAN... whose respect do they earn? or deserve? Financial enthusiasts vs aviation enthusiasts... no agreement possible. Money DOES rule the world. and all that is needed for evil to succeed, is for aviation enthusiasts to do nothing. ? Ummmmmm... |
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11-21-2011, 06:04 AM
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AS Xilon posted there would be no chance of any 1C Maddox officially affiliated entity would make any 'derivatives' of any NG owned trademark and copyright.
What most people didn't know is that NG asked for (and was paid) more than the development costs of the whole Il-2 series up to that point. SO you can see why this left a very bad after taste hence no 'American planes' from there after specially NG owned and legacy planes. Last edited by X32Wright; 11-21-2011 at 06:08 AM. |
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