how to see others while blacking out

[JRHOODY1]

Originally Posted by olife

JRHOODY and WILLBOAR44 ARE A GENTLEMAN AND A GREAT AND FAIR PLAYERS,I PLAY OFTEN WITH THEM AND KNOW THEM .THEY ARE NOT A CHEATERS!!!
RESPECT TO U BOTH GUYS!!!

thank you my french friend you always make me laugh online top bloke

[JRHOODY1]

Originally Posted by MACADEMIC

Well, if I may throw in my 2 cents, I wouldn't call this cheating, but cheeky.

I wouldn't adjust my tv so that I can see through the blackouts to gain an advantage. I accept blackouts as part of the game and wouldn't want to artificially avoid them. Most people probaby don't, so those who do can almost be sure that they have an advantage over everyone else.

Some inequalities cannot be avoided, such as what the quality and size of the tv is that people have, or the kind of joysticks they're using. But this is an inequality that can be avoided by the game from the start.

So, for the sequel, I fully agree with Robotic Pope that this issue should be addressed from the start. Blackouts should be blackouts, for everybody.

MAC

P.S.: What is a lag switch?

hello mac remember what you called me a while back, grasshopper when i first joined sim, things have changed my friend, where are you we had some great games p51vd9 the past few nights you haven't been online?ps cheeky lol

[olife]

Originally Posted by JRHOODY1

thank you my french friend you always make me laugh online top bloke

thanks too irish bro!!!
yes the il2 games ,all the evenings,with u and the others guys are super,a very good atmosphere! top bloke too bro!!
and,when i try to speak english with my terrible french accent!!hihihihi...i crash...!!merde!!

[JRHOODY1]

Originally Posted by vdomini

I completely disagree with you.

Tweaking on the in game brightness or TV to see better to me it's like lowering elevator sensitivity while flying a plane, avoiding stalling, or disable the cockpit view when available. It's just a personal setting, definetly not a way of cheating. If the devs wanted a fixed brightness settings they wouldn't allowed you the option, or, like most recent game ( dead space 2 for example ), they would make you set the bright level in-game at the beginning, comparing the slider value with a brightness reference picture.

Feel like flying at 0 brightness? Do it.
Feel like flying full sensitivity? Do it.
Feel like flying cockpit? Do it.

But don't blame other for cheating if the don't fly with your settings. Some people still play on CRT TV, some don't have a full HD plasma tv, i mean... It's your personal decision. It's not the brightness settings that will save your wings against a skilled pilot.

Also, when i fly against an opponent, i always think he's flyig with "no-handicap" and at his maximum TV, joypad controller / sensitivity / cockpit performance, ready to shoot lead on my ass. so NO MERCY ! I personally love flying in cockpit view and sometimes full sensitivity too, but i like fair games so i goes into that options only when previously agreeded with the players. Maybe next time i'll ask about their TV brightness too lol

Also, I feel like the dev added the black out effect just to make the game looks nicer, probably to disturb your sight on darker map ( i can hardly see ad dawn or sunset mission or while flying cloud covered in blackouts) , it's just a nice feature. If they really wanted to 100% blind you on blackouts, they would make it fade to completely black. Or, maybe, blending the enemy plane ( making him progressively transparent ) while fade out. There are several way to achive that kind of effect in 3d games... I wonder why they have not added the same on negative G but only positive.

Of course, those are my opinion. Take it easy and have fun!

spot on buddy i like the way you think be on tonight i love the way you fly the p51 great to watch see you in the air friend?

[JRHOODY1]

Originally Posted by olife

thanks too irish bro!!!
yes the il2 games ,all the evenings,with u and the others guys are super,a very good atmosphere! top bloke too bro!!
and,when i try to speak english with my terrible french accent!!hihihihi...i crash...!!merde!!

dont forget good shoot,lol buddy i will be on tonight if your up for taking down some d9s?

[Robotic Pope]

I'm wondering do you PS3 guys ever do things like having new sim players in SpitMIX or LA-5 against sim Veterans in FW190 or Mustang. I find this really gives the new guys a good close match.

[JRHOODY1]

Originally Posted by bobbysocks

blackoutsand redouts should be as i believe pope mentioned..more of a tunnel vision...darker around the edge and progressively lighter towards the middle. not a complete blackwash like it is here. that is the way it was in another game i used to play and worked well. the difference between turning up the brightness of the tv and setting the sensitivities is in a real plane you CAN adjust trim and such to give you more control. you cannot do anything about blackout save for a g-suit...which reminded me i would like that as an unlock in BoS. but conversely, as for shaking a finger at someone for turning the brightness to gain unfair advantage on the claim it wasnt in real life....in real life they didnt have a zoom feature either to help identify ac or see what direction it is breaking to. and how many of us use that?? you can argue that eveyone has that feature so the playing field is level...everyone has a brightness button too. i know players whose advice to getting more kills was to hit zoom to aim and shoot. i will fly how it suits me. i have no control over how others set things up to suit their taste. if i have issues with them...i just wont fly with them.

hello mr bobbysocks you are indeed one of the top forum members really the videos the stories from the guys that were there in the war i just want to thank you its the first thing i go to when on form great reads?

[themeistor1]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

I'm wondering do you PS3 guys ever do things like having new sim players in SpitMIX or LA-5 against sim Veterans in FW190 or Mustang. I find this really gives the new guys a good close match.

That happens all the time pope (JR still takes his spit into battle against 190 d9s') we usually leave newcomers alone for a while as well and we are always ready to share our knowledge

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by vdomini

I completely disagree with you.

Tweaking on the in game brightness or TV to see better to me it's like lowering elevator sensitivity while flying a plane, avoiding stalling, or disable the cockpit view when available. It's just a personal setting, definetly not a way of cheating. If the devs wanted a fixed brightness settings they wouldn't allowed you the option, or, like most recent game ( dead space 2 for example ), they would make you set the bright level in-game at the beginning, comparing the slider value with a brightness reference picture.

Feel like flying at 0 brightness? Do it.
Feel like flying full sensitivity? Do it.
Feel like flying cockpit? Do it.

But don't blame other for cheating if the don't fly with your settings. Some people still play on CRT TV, some don't have a full HD plasma tv, i mean... It's your personal decision. It's not the brightness settings that will save your wings against a skilled pilot.

Also, when i fly against an opponent, i always think he's flyig with "no-handicap" and at his maximum TV, joypad controller / sensitivity / cockpit performance, ready to shoot lead on my ass. so NO MERCY ! I personally love flying in cockpit view and sometimes full sensitivity too, but i like fair games so i goes into that options only when previously agreeded with the players. Maybe next time i'll ask about their TV brightness too lol

Also, I feel like the dev added the black out effect just to make the game looks nicer, probably to disturb your sight on darker map ( i can hardly see ad dawn or sunset mission or while flying cloud covered in blackouts) , it's just a nice feature. If they really wanted to 100% blind you on blackouts, they would make it fade to completely black. Or, maybe, blending the enemy plane ( making him progressively transparent ) while fade out. There are several way to achive that kind of effect in 3d games... I wonder why they have not added the same on negative G but only positive.

Of course, those are my opinion. Take it easy and have fun!

forgot to reply to this one.

There is a big difference between Sensitivity adjustment, virtual cockpit and Brightness control. The sensitivity is there to change the sensitvity of your stick and that is what we use it for. Same with the Virtual cockpit, it is there to give you a better view of your surroundings and that is why people use it.

Brightness controll is there so you can adjust the game to your TV so you can play the game looking at its best and how the developers intended. This is why a lot of games have a picture in a black square and you adjust the brightness untill you can only just about see the picture. This is not what it is being used for here which is why it is an exploit. You are exploiting a setting the developers put there for people that have TVs with very dark blacks, using it for a different unintented purpose which gives you ability that wasn't intended by the developer.

The developer cannot foresee everything we do. This is why exploits are common in games.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by themeistor1

That happens all the time pope (JR still takes his spit into battle against 190 d9s') we usually leave newcomers alone for a while as well and we are always ready to share our knowledge

Cool, I hope there are a good choice of crappy planes in Birds of Steel aswell . Just maybe not the 190 and Mustang this time lol.

Newbs in Zero's V Vets in Warhawks ?