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Old 11-21-2010, 05:54 PM
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The number of former online players sitting it out because of this crazy mash up of different mods, versions, etc, is far greater than the total mod fanbois think it is.

Be sure.
That is very true...
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:38 PM
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The number of former online players sitting it out because of this crazy mash up of different mods, versions, etc, is far greater than the total mod fanbois think it is.

Be sure.
Believe the same as you and Brain.

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Old 11-21-2010, 08:01 PM
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Brain said it...

... and my 2 cents : game start when a group of ppl seat around the same table...
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:31 PM
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Yes, stick the head in the sand if you like to. Reminds me of the managers at the large record companies that missed the wide open market opportunity that Apple, Spotify etc grabbed from the table in front of them... Soon there will be no market for music that is not online and they will sit there with their "there is no third option" mentality and no customers. I don't think that I have ever heard of a game developer that fights people that wants to create mods for their game? This is actually rather amusing - especially with the bunch of now made "official" mod developers that now rant about the others that are not in the club... Why not work together instead?
Let's cut the story short.
You want DT to officially support and endorse mods? It's not going to happen. Until developers and/or publishers change their views, DT is not in a position to support modding even if we wanted to.

As far as I know Il2 series included officially a significant amount of 3rd party projects (3D objects, maps) long before the modding started. Even a plethora of 3rd party programs was welcomed (HL, DCG, MAT manager...). How is that fighting people that create content for the game? DT hasn't changed that policy.

And finally, I really sympathize with your resentment that now made "official" mod developers get different treatment. I really can't imagine what kind of devious actions they have taken in order to achieve that.
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:12 PM
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Let's cut the story short.
You want DT to officially support and endorse mods? It's not going to happen.
Naturally I'm not talking about TD... Lets end this discussion now. You do a great job and I'm happy that there is still life in the old product while waiting for SoW:BoB!
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:30 PM
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Believe the same as you and Brain.

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Undoubtedly true, entire squads disappeared or split with the mods.

However, banning the mods in 4.10 would not fix the old wounds it would split the community even further.

Leave well enough alone.
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:48 PM
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The number of former online players sitting it out because of this crazy mash up of different mods, versions, etc, is far greater than the total mod fanbois think it is.

Be sure.

That applies to me...I must say that I miss the on-line excitement, man against man is sometimes very challenging, and exciting when your teamed up. I'm looking forward to returning to on-line play with SOW...I hope the shi% heads don't ruin it anytime soon.
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:36 PM
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...it really is all hopeless isn't it?
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:33 AM
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Hopeless, BadAim?

I would not go that far.

Myself and a small cadre of friends still find much satisfaction flying together online. Is it like the early glory days of the sim? No. But it is still fun.

It is sometimes not as easy as the old days. I have more than once had someone come into a map I was hosting in the last couple months and somehow manage to fly the Silverplate B29 with unlimited atomic bombs, in a 1940 or '41 plane set, and grind things to a halt. So I just shut down, restart with a password in place and we carry on.

Don't give up hope, it's still fun to fly.
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:47 AM
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I haven't flew 4.09 vanilia from about one year. And truly speaking I do not regret it.
Mods gives second life for Il2. Im still playing online and with CRT=2 i know that we play still the same game. There are so many servers and all will find what they like. You dont want mods so play 4.09 servers your chooice. If you like UP so you could play Spits vs 109 Mods or great Battle of Britain server with CRT=2. I dont want to back to stock anymore.
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