Orcs on the March - high score/highlights/combat statistics

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by jake21

Yea - but I want to know where the 93'rd quest came from

btw in my no loss games i was able to reach level 61 (though only 92 quests in each). The big problem is my days play tend to be around 18.

Yeah, I'm not sure either. It has to do with the order of how I do the quests, which seems to be related to the "quasi-speed" run since I have gotten 92 quests before, and 93 quests.

The speed run forces you to engage in certain battles a bit early, so you need a very "overpowered" strategy.

For me to hit higher level, I would need to keep all my "experience items" equipped. It isn't so much that I couldn't do it, I just don't want to do it.

I love having a lot of intellect or doing nearly maximum damage, etc. Not to mention, I also need to farm for Ancient Knowledge scrolls, which to me, is brain numbing since I would have to save/reload a lot.

Yeah, the second half of the game forces a lot of travel time and makes those last few days jump up like nuts.

[Zechnophobe]

The 50/50/50 you are talking about is the pirates, bowmen and robbers yes? You can buy max amount you have leadership for, put them into reserves, and then repeat. You don't need the leadership for the full stack, just the coin.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

The 50/50/50 you are talking about is the pirates, bowmen and robbers yes? You can buy max amount you have leadership for, put them into reserves, and then repeat. You don't need the leadership for the full stack, just the coin.

But you only have 2 reserve slots. There is still one last "50" stack. I think the robbers are the "lowest leadership" one.

You need at least enough leadership to hold a single stack to do it in one go. I'm a mage. So, not enough leadership.

Also, I need those slots eventually to stock up on certain units to bring along with me.

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

But you only have 2 reserve slots. There is still one last "50" stack. I think the robbers are the "lowest leadership" one.

You need at least enough leadership to hold a single stack to do it in one go. I'm a mage. So, not enough leadership.

Also, I need those slots eventually to stock up on certain units to bring along with me.

Well, just to be technical, you do not actually need enough leadership even for the third stack:

Buy, say, 25 Bowmen from castle. Place in castle reserve area. Buy 25 more, place in castle. Click on 50 bowmen in castle, get 50 out of control bowmen. Of course, you can't FIGHT with that, and you may need to be doing that .


So, that aside... I'm about to go to Shattera at level 43, and have to do it in one run. I hear that scrounger is a bit of a beast, but haven't seen her forces yet. So far against Orcs I pretty much always have to target someone so that the shamans don't use spells. I assume Shackles won't work. What spells does Scrounger get up to?

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

Well, just to be technical, you do not actually need enough leadership even for the third stack:

Buy, say, 25 Bowmen from castle. Place in castle reserve area. Buy 25 more, place in castle. Click on 50 bowmen in castle, get 50 out of control bowmen. Of course, you can't FIGHT with that, and you may need to be doing that .


So, that aside... I'm about to go to Shattera at level 43, and have to do it in one run. I hear that scrounger is a bit of a beast, but haven't seen her forces yet. So far against Orcs I pretty much always have to target someone so that the shamans don't use spells. I assume Shackles won't work. What spells does Scrounger get up to?

Oh yeah I forgot about that! Good point. I think my problem was I actually had to fight.

Oh man, that is pretty low level for Scrounger.

She doesn't use attack spells as far as I can remember.

Occasionally she will Teleport a stack to you. Most of the time, she uses Phantom.

Good part is, no Geyser or Lightning.

However, Phantom is very problematic because she is an all Orc army, those Phantom goblin shaman might regain Astral Attack. So you either waste a round dispelling, or hope it hits one of YOUR phantoms instead.

There is some randomness on what stacks she can call up. Sometimes there are more Orc Veterans (YUCK), other times, more Ogres (can be bad). Almost always, a large host of Goblin Shaman and Goblins. That is where I saw the Goblins do 5 attacks in a row.

My last game, I saw a stack of 1600 goblins.

My general strategies for it is either somewhat disable, or Summon Storm e.g. keep phantoming units that can summon.

You almost have to drop Ball of Lightning a few times to whittle the enemy down.

You could go Mystic Egg (she usually doesn't go for it, but the board can get crowded), but Ball of Lightning might work better.

[Zechnophobe]

Maybe I'll get lucky and she'll roll over to a Dryad Storm. I might try single stack of bone dragons possibly. Ogres would be a problem though...

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

Maybe I'll get lucky and she'll roll over to a Dryad Storm. I might try single stack of bone dragons possibly. Ogres would be a problem though...

Yeah, Dryad Storm might work since you might be able to Perma-Disable half of the army with Sleep and the Thornic Flood... hmm.

The problem is, will they have enough initiative? I guess with Girl Power they would.

One thing I hated about using the low level units is the lack of defense. They take ridiculous damage from everything.

Also, single stack bone dragon might not fly. (I considered the single stack Black Knights...). Poison is definitely good though.

Goblin Poison Axes bypass ALL RANGE modifiers and ALL DEFENSE. (the range bit is quite a killer).

Goblin Shaman - Astral Attack... they might kill your entire stack in one round.

Blood Shaman - Astral/Magic Attack... this won't hurt as badly if you got the Crown of Chaos

Shaman - Magic Attack - finally, it has been nerfed to actually take the unit's defense into consideration and it is relatively easy to get high magic resistance.

Ogre - Drain, although if you have high initiative, you probably will never get drained.

Nevermind the Ogre Chieftain stack that she usually has. Ugh, I love dragons and their shoot-through, but the Ogre Chieftain and their SMASH-Through can really suck for summoners.

[Zechnophobe]

So the idea is to lock out their special magicks with Target. That will work on all shamans that have ranged attacks, or are within melee range. This has worked well against other notable forces. I expect Scrounger to be much stronger though, so I'm not sure...

The Goblin Shamans and their '-1% resistance' on each hit can be the real killer here. If I have 75% physical resistance, each hit is increasing that damage significantly... And the 95% magic resistance is even more noticeable.

Hmm, Will really just come down to one of the following:

1) Can bone dragons survive AND KILL fast enough?
2) Can I get a dryad chain going?
3) Will she somehow have a weaker formation I can use a standard army to fight?

If she magically has no Goblin Shamans, things get a lot easier. I may consider pain mirror + time back too. Take a hit from, like, a blood shaman, and then nuke the crap out of it.

[atlatea]

What class are you? I guess mage?

If yes, just black hole with insane int, of course you need few ways of decoy, like disabling them with dryad or anything like that, always try to throw a black hole, 2 should be enough.

It's not that -1 % resistance that you should fear about scrounger army, but the poison ability of the goblin thrower, it's the most damaging ability of scrounger, far surpassing dual astral attack from 2 shamans (goblin + blood).

And if you use target, just watch out for the poison. As for astral attack, you can ignore the one from blood shaman, but watch out for goblin shaman.

Generally, most dangerous threat: Ogres, blood and goblin shamans, poison from goblin axe thrower, you can ignore the rest.

Mystic egg is one of your best friend.

[ckdamascus]

Ugh, my memory is getting too short. Yeah, Black Hole is the best option as a Mage... I simply did not have it for my 'quasi-speed' run.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...=16636&page=16

A real shame, as this time around, I could have easily smacked her with like 84 int.

I'm also a little miffled and confused about Black Hole damage. The mouse-over the spell book said it did around 19K maximum damage. Yet, against Baal and Friends, I did 27K a few times.