SOW - with new DRM model by UBI ?

[Flanker35M]

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Bought Silent Hunter 5, it needs internet connection when playing. No biggie for me, as RoF used it too. I understand the reasons why people dislike such features, but for me no problem at all. I have a legit copy of the game and no need to keep DVD in drive with this feature..much like Steam.

[mazex]

I get so tired of all this hysteria regarding DRM systems whatever they are called...

I just don't understand why people get so upset? Software has been protected by different versions of copy protection systems since the C64 days. Remember the tedious work of finding weird codes in those manuals? As it is now the online solution is the one that will prevail. Just face it. Everyone that are in the target group for buying games are connected now They have spent enough cash on a rig to be able to play the game and computers like that are in 97% of the cases connected to the Internet. The ones not connected are the ones travelling in the lap of their owner and that is a minor problem. People on 28k modems are not in the target group, and they have not been for 10 years.

I just installed Battlefield: Bad Company 2 yesterday and after the installation I got the question:

Do you want a DVD check when starting the game or online autentication that removes the need for having the disc in the computer?

I suppose you can guess what I choose? The alternative that makes it easiest for me as a paying customer. I just love that I don't to find a disc to play ROF.

There is only ONE developer of high budget sub simulators right now and their publisher decides to go with and online DRM system. What happens? Half of the so called "community" says they will not buy the game (like they refused to buy the excellent SH3 due to Star Force whining). It's fortunate that they are only a couple of hundred people so their crying will have no effect. The "men on the street" will hopefully buy the game so the whiners can get SH 6 in the end. Guess what? Whoever publishes it will sure have an online protection too. As will all other games in a few years. Start looking for your old board games while the rest of us enjoys the removed need to find those discs to be able to play.

Sure - as a customer I would love to have a game with no protection systems at all. But as it is now the companies are fleeing the PC market due to piracy. The invention of a fool proof DRM system (and that will require online authentication in some way) could actually be the solution that brings on a new renaissance of PC gaming where enough copies are sold to support nice markets like the flight simulator market...

/Mazex

[csThor]

The day when you have to subject to a monthly subscription even for playing offline games will be the day when you know why people object to such bullcr@p, mazex. This is only the beginning of a development that gives publisher executives wet dreams - DLCs at every turn, monthly subscriptions even for offline content ... I for sure won't act as cow for the publishers to milk for money at every corner.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by csThor

The day when you have to subject to a monthly subscription even for playing offline games will be the day when you know why people object to such bullcr@p, mazex. This is only the beginning of a development that gives publisher executives wet dreams - DLCs at every turn, monthly subscriptions even for offline content ... I for sure won't act as cow for the publishers to milk for money at every corner.

+1000. Well said.

[kimosabi]

Originally Posted by csThor

The day when you have to subject to a monthly subscription even for playing offline games will be the day when you know why people object to such bullcr@p, mazex. This is only the beginning of a development that gives publisher executives wet dreams - DLCs at every turn, monthly subscriptions even for offline content ... I for sure won't act as cow for the publishers to milk for money at every corner.

I agree. It is neat that they have the opportunity to update or patch your game at every available time that way but that function could just as well be implemented when you choose to go online. They sure are exploiting the DLC market and just look at what X-box has become now, you can't turn it on once without being prompted about updates or "necessary" or "cool" content for your game. It's annoying to say the least. Industry is industry and if things get much worse than they are right now, I'm not buying their games. If they implement that behaviour in SOW I'm not buying that either. Updating or patching should be a user choice, not publishers.

[AdMan]

plus it's highly invasive

Ubi is not the publisher, end of.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

I don't think it's invasive at all, it's just unnecessary. I had internet problems a while ago and guess what, couldn't play Rise of Flight becase of some stupid need for being online all the time. It's reasonable that people don't like it.

Something I can't get is the problem with Star Force. Even the "old" Star Force never gave a single issue on my computer, and in latest versions it's dumbproof and doesn't install anything.

What's up with that? Buy, install, type a number in a box and you're good to go. Hard, ain't it?

[virre89]

Originally Posted by HKLE

well. Would be a nogo for me too. I already cancelled SH5 preorder for the same reason.

What a bunch of sissys , so IF BoB would require an internet connection you'd actually skip it? I know Oleg already confirmed they won't go down this road more or less, however some people are just so pecky it's both funny, ridiculous and retarded at the same time. But fine if you wanna miss out on ROF and SH5 , it's your loss no one else, and frankly i would've liked BOB to have a constant Internet connection requirement as well just as a principle.

If a DRM stops you after years of waiting i feel sorry for you and how you value the products.

[csThor]

To quote myself ...

The day when you have to subject to a monthly subscription even for playing offline games will be the day when you know why people object to such bullcr@p, mazex. This is only the beginning of a development that gives publisher executives wet dreams - DLCs at every turn, monthly subscriptions even for offline content ... I for sure won't act as cow for the publishers to milk for money at every corner.

This is why such ridiculous schemes are being introduced. The publishers want to push users into accepting DLCs at every corner and ultimately pay to play even for offline games. Have fun with micro-payments for every little thing if you're so keen on such a system.

[Sarcasm on] Want a quick flight in Storm of War - North Africa QMB? No problem, just add your credit card details for monthly subscription. Only 9,99 €. What? You don't have the new Macchi MC.202 Series III, yet? Go to our shop and purchase it. Just 14,99 €.[/Sarcasm off]