IL2 and Sound Modding

[jasonbirder]

Could it be that the online functions of those other games suck?

Or it could be that playing games in Dogfight rooms sucks...and flyers in other sims have cottened on to that fact...

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Thats because they aren't played online through ASE or Hyperlobby...
How many World of Warcraft games are there on Hyperlobby? None? Doesn't mean its not popular though does it?
Ive been playing Falcon 4.0 online in various versions for over 6 years...never once through Hyperlobby
Flight Simulation doesn't begin and end with Hyperlobby!
There is another world out there...Offline, Squadron based, Peer to Peer, Co-op missions...that make up the vast majority of play!

Pfft!! Be all that as it may be... I bet the numbers still don't add up to Hyperlobby on a good night. I bet cyberspace is teaming with people flying all those great sims online....

Originally Posted by stalkervision

Psss...Bearcat check out "Bunnie"
http://21stcenturytoys.com/1_18_scale.html#Anchor-49575

A bit late on that one... LMAO.. had it about a year now.. I got it before it was released..

Originally Posted by Sunchaser

In order to answer that question all you have to do is go online to ASE or HL and see .... just how many people are flying those other sims mentioned that have " been the subject of extensive community and third party modification... " then ask yourself why that is.. and you will have your own answer in a nutshell... It is a shame that it had to be this way.. but it is what it is.

Could it be that the online functions of those other games suck?

I dont know... the only sim I ever had the chance to fly that "benifitted" from modding was the MS series... and the rest I can only speak about from hearsay.. but from what I saw of the MS series.. sure there were some good mods out there... but I think I DLd more bad ones than good.. and after a while I got tired of trying to keep track...

I do agree with you on that last one though Jason... about the DF rooms.. I got tired of that in the FFAs on the Zone... in fact if I hadnt discovered IL2 I might not e en be simming now... I am sure I am not alone in that respect either.

[Sunchaser]

"Or it could be that playing games in Dogfight rooms sucks"

That is a given but you forget the online wars, coops, etc that also need good online coding.

Anyhow, back to the sound mod, I like it, have no intentions of wrecking online play with it.

[Thrud]

i fly with 85-95 pilots at once, 3 times a week. on that server, over 60% connect direct ip. they aren't on HL or ASE.

[stalkervision]

[QUOTE=Bearcat;30728]Pfft!! Be all that as it may be... I bet the numbers still don't add up to Hyperlobby on a good night. I bet cyberspace is teaming with people flying all those great sims online....





A bit late on that one... LMAO.. had it about a year now.. I got it before it was released..




before it was even released huh? excellent... !

[Sunchaser]

"I dont know... the only sim I ever had the chance to fly that "benifitted" from modding was the MS series... and the rest I can only speak about from hearsay.. but from what I saw of the MS series.. sure there were some good mods out there... but I think I DLd more bad ones than good.. and after a while I got tired of trying to keep track"

Bearcat, the above strikes a chord....there get to be so many mods that there is no way to keep track of what's what and the mods for IL2 will soon reach that plateau.

So far AAA has a handle on them but I think that will not last much longer.

And the some good, some bad is already trickling in.

[JG52Uther]

I still keep thinking back to the no cd/no dvd files thing. If nothing else then putting them into my game folder made me a hacker in the true sense of the word.

[Bearcat]

Well from what I have seen the only mods that I am even interested in are the ones thatare acually more like utilities.. the one that might add a new map or two.... or three etc... or the one that will let you change default skins.. I dont know how it workls but I was told that it changes the skins for the static planes.. which is something that I have wanted for a long long time in here.. but.. as I said.. I am still in wait and see mode... I really would have no need for a lot of what I have seen coming out from AAA.. I only fly a handfull of planes in here now as it is.. and the stock sounds are ok to me... I really really hope that Oleg takes a bit of time for a few days to at least say something about this..

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

One thing I don't agree with is this constant "slap in the face" nonsense. If I were a game developer and developed a game that had a very long run without being changed whatsoever and then decided not to support it anymore IMO it would hardly be a slap in the face to me if the community members that owned that game and only wanted it to continue and get even better out of a true love for the game choose to further support and improve it all on their own. Rather, I would be very proud I developed a game people loved enough to keep supporting and improving on after newer and better ones were on the horizon.

Originally Posted by stalkervision

I really don't think people realise how smart a guy oleg is. He knows il-2 is an old, over the hill game, himself because he developed it! A good one to be sure but that is the facts. He is now putting all his resources or almost all of them into a new and much better game engine. The people that want to keep Il-2 unchanged are living in the past tense...

your a hypocrite to try and use that argument to steal from oleg !

il2 and 1946 are still the bread and butter income that helps to fund oleg's development of BoB. and he hasnt given permission to vandalize his products, or with your warped mind did you think you saw him say that to ?

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Thats because they aren't played online through ASE or Hyperlobby...
How many World of Warcraft games are there on Hyperlobby? None? Doesn't mean its not popular though does it?
Ive been playing Falcon 4.0 online in various versions for over 6 years...never once through Hyperlobby
Flight Simulation doesn't begin and end with Hyperlobby!
There is another world out there...Offline, Squadron based, Peer to Peer, Co-op missions...that make up the vast majority of play!

what a load of nonsense !

if you want to make some logical argument, get your facts straight at the start.

hyperlobby is the main online server method for il2 dogfight servers, which is why it matters what happens there in regards to cheating. Hyperlobby isnt used for those other games because they either have their own server networks or use another type of online server system.

and nobody cares is a person uses hacked files at home in their own bedroom while they pretend to be chuck yeager with an uber hacked plane and blast 100 migs from the sky in 5 minutes.

the main reason people dont want hacked files is because there is no way to tell whom is using them online to cheat, when they join open servers. and oleg doesnt have the time to again devote resources and time on implementing a new server checksum version for 4.09