Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[kendo65]

re: the various photos posted. Brought to mind something I mentioned before - I don't recall ever seeing dense woodland/forest in any of the SOW pics that have been posted..?!

A while back there was an image showing a larger area than normal of trees but the density was very low - made me think that they are having fps issues or some such and that everything has been trimmed down to the bare minimum?

(or - once again - LOW settings, like il2 running with trees=1 or 0 set in config.ini ???)

ok, went back and checked - there are a few, but from way back. All the recent shots show very lo-density tree coverage

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Rueckwaertsflieger

On my last trip to England I have done these photos.

Awesome shots Notice the flat bottomed clouds

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by kendo65

re: the various photos posted. Brought to mind something I mentioned before - I don't recall ever seeing dense woodland/forest in any of the SOW pics that have been posted..?!

A while back there was an image showing a larger area than normal of trees but the density was very low - made me think that they are having fps issues or some such and that everything has been trimmed down to the bare minimum?

(or - once again - LOW settings, like il2 running with trees=1 or 0 set in config.ini ???)

Check out the October 2009 shots. Dense woodland was shown there.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Now then splitter, we've had some good chats and you're obviously an intelligent chap, so don't jump on the bandwagon, please.

What do you think about the weathering of squadron codes?

Thanks.

promising feature, although the transparency of the markings rather than full chipping away looks a bit off, as identified.

Originally Posted by LukeFF

I think the way they are displayed on the British aircraft is excellent, but the ones on the Italian aircraft are too transparent (as Oleg alluded to in his initial post here).

Otherwise, they are a major step up from the stock IL2 markings, which don't blend in at all with the airframe.

yeah, pretty much. huge improvement over the pasted images afforded by either mat manager or mods.

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

Did you remember this one? That should be what you mean. Paint away = markings away.



Be patient. All will get well.

perfect.

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

So why does it look so bad now, in that shot it looks like England, the colours are right, the hedgerows are right, it just needs some trees etc.

it may be that the only thing recent about the screenshots is that they were posted recently, rather than taken recently.

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Tree, what is it about the words "work in progress" that you just cannot seem to grasp?

You see one shot you like then another that you don't, and you wrongly come to the conclusion that they have thrown the baby out with the bath water and gone with the one you don't care for.

Now you believe that because Oleg has said they are working on bugs, that the sim is totally done and everything is fixed in place. This is in spite of the fact that Oleg has said that they will be tuning the graphics till the time the code goes to the publisher.

You have the most twisted thought process of anyone I've ever read online.

Or, you work for a competitor and are being paid to raise hell in this forum.

Either way, you should seek help.

all three.

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Awesome shots Notice the flat bottomed clouds

good shots. although not totally pan bottom flat, the cloud base altitude is probably within a 10m variance or so? if that's the difference that you were talking about earlier, then you were correct.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Check out the October 2009 shots. Dense woodland was shown there.

That was possibly before the Speedtree software was bought in.

[JVM]

Concerning the weathering of the G50 marking keep in mind that the original picture in the modeller (the one dug out by Foo'bar) shows a completely weathered skin where obviously the weathering has been applied over the paint + marking layer before merging layers of the skin.
In the last screenshot the marking are of the automatic type as we know them from Il2 and are applied over the basic skin. To avoid to a certtain degree the effect of "newly repainted squadron markings" the markings themselves are made a bit transparent: you can see the weathering below the 'paint" of the marking!

It is certainly not a bug, more like an unfortunate feature . To avoid this it would be needed to have the engine applying the weathering after the selection of the auto-markings for this flight...this implies a certain layering structure of the skin which can be applied at starting time by the engine.
Maybe it is intended, as the progressive weathering has been touted a while ago by Oleg, but probably considered as a detail to deal with later!

JV

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Rueckwaertsflieger

On my last trip to England I have done these photos.

Just asking how the terrain and crops have altered since 1940.We now grow rape seed which is not an old crop here,infact filming the film BoB in 1969 was plagued by crops and roads that were not around in the 1940's.

There was more countryside,we are now over populated,less roads and built up areas then and don't forget they were digging to feed the country.
You need to compare to historically correct crops,fields [which will affect the colours] and also weather [was it wet or dry,once again colours] or just the light from the sky.
That Autumnal shot of Surrey is not really an average view,blues too blue,reds and oranges also too powerful.
Don't forget 1940's Britain was smoky and grimy in places ,coal fired industries ,steam railways etc.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

guys, i will ask this once more, if you want to insult me in any way please feel free to 'pm' me rather than do it in the forums, I am more than happy to recieve your insults and trade if you want to go down that route. However much you want to get personal with me wont unfortunately change my view or make me like something that you do, I am open to a discussion though which these forums are designed for.

your a hypocrite and a liar tree, and you can add that to the tittle of coward you rightfully earned here before

a) your a hypocrite for now pretending you are a normal poster here who just contributes by constructive feedback, and pretending you are "misunderstood" in your intentions here. as your proven track record here shows in print for the last year for all to see, you are the exact opposite and deliberately post nothing but whining and bitching about release dates, to which you have now added deliberately offensive remarks to oleg and the updates he is sharing here

b) you'r a liar for posting in this exact thread (a few pages back) that you private msg'd me to try and resolve differences (was funny to see you type that, o the web you weave)

c) and your a coward for backtracking on your proclamation here a couple of months ago, where you said that BoB wouldnt come out for another yr, after which you got called on it by me to put your money where your mouth was, and all you did was to slithered away like a rodent

so no tree, pretending you are a normal contributor here and want to clear personal differences so that the forum can operate normally does not cut the mustard, you'r a phony

ahh, and should i now add "no offense of course" or can you type that yourself instead ?

all that is expected from you, like anybody else here, is that you
1) "contribute" to the forum
2) participate in a civilized constructive and adult manner in giving feedback on the glimpses we get in the regular updates

but you cant do it can you ? you really cant ! ehh because thats not why you are here boyo eh common, tell the good folks why you are really here, some barely know you and still fall for it

note to other forum users: sorry folks for all the negativity distracting from savoring your crumpet with your morning coffee, but the hypocrisy of that last post of his is just astounding and is purely aimed at blowing smoke up your..... mmmm well you know where i mean some might actually fall for it if their not fully awake on what they are asked to swallow, its called the "tree's slithering act part 1 of his backward peddling opus", and its a load of bull

[philip.ed]

MD, that's exactly what I was talking about earlier. Obviously the bottom won't be ruler straight, but it's very defined. IMO the clouds in SoW just need to be tweaked in shape, and then everything is there for the game to have the most realistic clouds ever. Indeed, it'd be great to see the type of sun reflection on the clouds, as that is something that I've noticed is really strong when flying over clouds. We have yet to see this shown clearly in SoW due to the angle of the shots taken


Zap; this is all virtual. Tree has nothing to give to you and neither do you to him or anyone to you or you to anyone. You bitching to Tree is just as bad as him doing so to you. Just cut it out; it does my head in seeing posts that have nothing to do with the game, but are just about moaning about forum members.

[Richie]

Actually there's a lot of good shots of the ground in the movie I made especially out of the nose of the Heinkle on time 26 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZ_1-lhsIE