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Old 04-26-2012, 11:16 PM
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Excellent! Looks like a long restoration job ahead though!
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:24 PM
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Seems every week a new formally lost one is found...excellent!
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:31 AM
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This 109 in YT is "Swiblo Lake" 109, damage by flak, crash in no man's land, german fire in then with machine guns.

http://historicaviationjournalandmar...lake-find.html

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Old 04-27-2012, 01:10 AM
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Wow,

one "Uhu", having been a Radar guy in my military time back in 89, I always was fascinated by the beginning of electronic warfare.

I have to monitor the restauration closely, as it`s only a around 200 km drive from here, well worth watching one "Uhu" in it`s full glory. Love that bird.

THX for posting!

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Old 04-27-2012, 05:47 AM
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Pictures from the salvage:
http://www.danas-have.dk/He219.htm
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:55 AM
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oh i didnt know marseille had a nervous breakdown as well

this seems to be covered up due to hero worship
Raaaid we are talking about PTSD and not about Nevous Breakdowns which is a different clinical picture.
Novotny and Marseille clearly showed signs of PTSD and it looks like Hartmann had it too.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:12 AM
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there are many names for it but its the same thing:

Hartmann was downed for the fifth time, having been rammed by an LaGG-3. Following this incident, he suffered a nervous breakdown and was sent back to Germany on convalescent leave.

http://www.theeasternfront.co.uk/air...twaffeaces.htm

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On 25 May 1943, when Hartmann was downed for the fifth time - this time when he was rammed by or collided with a LaGG-3 - he suffered a nervous breakdown, and was sent back to Germany to rest. Back home his father told him that he was convinced that Germany had no chance to win the war. Hartmann returned to the Eastern Front in June 1943 determined to prove that his father was wrong.

http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/hartm/hartm1.htm
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:45 PM
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Let me guess, sure you think you're the reincarnation of one of them, right?
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:01 PM
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well i dont BELIEVE that

but im haunted at night by dreams in whcih im an experten, and my personality actually fits marseilles

aslo i made a poll and 80% of people have pondered to be wwii fighter in past life

hey maybe i shot you down and from there your feelings

well i learnt the lesson now i fight but dont shoot

according my dreams i ve been:

an alien who would dogfight around a blackhhole, a samurai, an american independency soldier, a car thieve and expert driver from bank robberries oh and an experten
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:09 PM
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well i dont BELIEVE that

but im haunted at night by dreams in whcih im an experten, and my personality actually fits marseilles

aslo i made a poll and 80% of people have pondered to be wwii fighter in past life

hey maybe i shot you down and from there your feelings

well i learnt the lesson now i fight but dont shoot

according my dreams i ve been:

an alien who would dogfight around a blackhhole, a samurai, an american independency soldier, a car thieve and expert driver from bank robberries oh and an experten

Lol I don't recall marselle being known for making wildly inaccurate theories with no evidence to back them up, from what I have heard about him he was a bit of a playboy that flouted authority and was clearly a good tactician!

Hmmm I am still struggiling to see the similarities
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