Arado 234, B-17, P-47 in Strike

[Ancient Seraph]

The bonus planes are supposed to be released in the DLC as well, as far as I know.
I know the Arado is tempting, just like using drugs in the Tour de France is tempting.. still lame imo

[Gazz6666]

But I assume you have the B-17?

As for the DLC, has anyone from 1c mentioned it, or is it the community making merry with their wishes and imagination?

[Raw Kryptonite]

This thing grew like a weed overnight! Nice feedback.

Originally Posted by Riceball

And Raw, what do you mean by, "people should know you unlock this thing in the single missions"? I assume you mean the HE-111? And not the B-17.

Originally Posted by irrelevant

I think he was referring to the Arado 234

Correct, I meant the Arado is unlocked in the single missions.

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

the Arado carries three 500lb bombs

No, the Arado comes with 500 *kilogram* bombs. That's 1100 lbs each, releases 3 at at time. Still far behind the B-17 with 2000 lb'ers, but better than an A-20 or HE-111.

bomb kg tickets per bomb
100 lb 45 0.35
50 кг 50 0.5
100 кг 100 2
250 lb 113 4
500 lb 226.5 5
250 кг 250 6
1000 lb 453 12
500 кг (1100 lbs) 500 14
2000 lb 907 24(!)


I don't begrudge someone the right to use the B-17, they worked hard for--I sure intend to. I do wish people made an effort to balance the teams though. Too often I'm the only full sized bomber with a B-17 and another bomber on the other team (clearly in a party, so they want on the same team). In a case like that, I'm in the Arado. If we're all HE-111's, then I'm following suit---I prefer props too. Teams need to figure out what's needed to balance out. Move players around, bring the right aircraft.

I'm not playing Strike without a bomber until I get the B-17, but it's disappointing that another trend is the other entire team takes nothing but fighters and they turn the game into team battle. They need to remove any points for shoot downs, they should be defensive only IMO. Keep the game on target. 2 bombers vs. that will likely win, but again, it takes the life out of the game.

[Ancient Seraph]

If you'd take out points for killing, everyone would just grab a bomber and then it would only come down to who can hit the target the most times, most precise in the least amount of time, totally ignoring the other team. I would hate to see this happen, especially because the 'overpowerement' of the B17 would become even more obvious. As you said, it's still likely you'll win when flying bombers against a figher-only team, so once everyone has figured that out you'll see it less. People should be a little more variable in their setup though, switching between fighter and bomber (although I fully understand you want to unlock the B17 and thus only fly bomber), and should always pick a team, not random. This way it's easier for everyone if they should change type or not.

[Raw Kryptonite]

It would still make sense to have fighters, to deny the enemy from hitting your bunkers, but you're right, it would probably devolve into a bomber race. I think they said they had something in mind for this. Maybe reducing points for taking out bombers, or better yet, assigning bomber and fighter slots in the lobby. Not sure how that would work with varying room sizes though.
It's a lot of fun to be on well balanced teams, I hope something works out on this.

[papavictorlima]

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite

They need to remove any points for shoot downs, they should be defensive only IMO. Keep the game on target. 2 bombers vs. that will likely win, but again, it takes the life out of the game.

On the one hand I totally agree with you. Strike is a great way of playing the game. It should be bombers that do the job and fighters to protect them, and/or attacking the enemy bombers of course.
I agree the balance is out in many games, but when you take points away for shoot down, people wont use fighters, and then the whole 'Strike' charm is gone. Also the fact that there are bonusses related for using fighters (like 10 wins on the Bf109E3 on Strike) does not help the game play.
Good point mentioned though.

[PantherAttack2]

I do wish there was some better way to assign teams though... I just had to play a 3 vs 3 Strike game-

My team:
Ju-87B-2 (me)
Bf-109G-2
Fw-190A-5

Their Team:
Arado-234
A-20G
Ju-87D-5

I hate this... Every time I play as a Ju-87B-2 (in order to unlock the D-5) the enemy always packs the best bombers and because of that I always lose.

[Raw Kryptonite]

Originally Posted by PantherAttack2

I do wish there was some better way to assign teams though... I just had to play a 3 vs 3 Strike game-

My team:
Ju-87B-2 (me)
Bf-109G-2
Fw-190A-5

Their Team:
Arado-234
A-20G
Ju-87D-5

I hate this... Every time I play as a Ju-87B-2 (in order to unlock the D-5) the enemy always packs the best bombers and because of that I always lose.

Ouch, not sure that was worth the time it took to play it. LOL

[Gazz6666]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

If you'd take out points for killing, everyone would just grab a bomber and then it would only come down to who can hit the target the most times, most precise in the least amount of time, totally ignoring the other team. I would hate to see this happen, especially because the 'overpowerement' of the B17 would become even more obvious. As you said, it's still likely you'll win when flying bombers against a figher-only team, so once everyone has figured that out you'll see it less. People should be a little more variable in their setup though, switching between fighter and bomber (although I fully understand you want to unlock the B17 and thus only fly bomber), and should always pick a team, not random. This way it's easier for everyone if they should change type or not.

I see what you mean.

Actually, alot of people seem to go on about how brilliant the B-17 is, but i've been looking at the unlock list and have spent about half an hour building up Spitfire kills for that Spit Mk XVI Looking at about 50 or so at the moment

On that note - some people on IL2 are damned cowards. I've just finished a match that had 3 spitfires, 2 109's and a 163 in a 3 on 3 match. The match ended 15 - 6 in my favour, with all the kills being claimed by me in a Spit Mk IX. But it also ended at 2 on 1 (the hard way), with me against a Spit Mk II and the 163. So a note to anyone who quits because they're losing - please stop.

[Ancient Seraph]

Well, there's always gonna be quitters.. the curse of being good is that not everyone appreciates it, especially the enemy