ROF is out on may 7th

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

If it is so obviously not for you, why do you keep banging on about it? Wouldn't it be a better use of your time to just go away???

you might not have spotted this, but you'r in an il2/BoB forum, which emm , err , you know, is for discussing il2 and BoB related products that we emm, err ..., as il2/BoB customers like or want to discuss.

doesnt mean you have to start clapping every time a flying turd comes past and we have to discuss its flight modeling, just because its an airborne object and you are in a flightsim forum

if its a flying turd, lets just call it a flying turd

[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by zapatista

you might not have spotted this, but you'r in an il2/BoB forum, which emm , err , you know, is for discussing il2 and BoB related products that we emm, err ..., as il2/BoB customers like or want to discuss.

doesnt mean you have to start clapping every time a flying turd comes past and we have to discuss its flight modeling, just because its an airborne object and you are in a flightsim forum

if its a flying turd, lets just call it a flying turd

It may be a flying turd... But at least it is flying
Last IL2 update we got was and I quote "4.09 will not be worked on until SOW reach a special point in development" No one is saying what that point is so calling this an IL2 forum is kind-of-lame anyway.
Calling it a SOW forum is a joke because hell four months after a promised... We still sit with screenshots of planes built in a viewer most likely built when SOW was a concept and they thought they could still use the original IL2 engine
The fact that the ROF guys built there own engine and flight sim deserves some credit. So some people do not like online 24/7 authentication.
Well they are not catering for those guys purely because the money is not there obviously.
The online activation and data monitoring is obviously an anti piracy thing...
My guess is SOW when it eventually is released will also have some find of online activation at least.

[Feuerfalke]

Four month after a promissed.... what?

And who promised that to you?


@ RickRuski:
You can be banned for discussing that here, you know?

But then anyway big-time LOL - to be concerned about owner rights and companies limiting your own rights, while you suggest to play a game based on an illegal crack. Really got to ROFLOL!
Sounds like always: It's okay, if you brake a law as long as I'm not hurt by it.

[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Four month after a promissed.... what?

And who promised that to you?


@ RickRuski:
You can be banned for discussing that here, you know?

But then anyway big-time LOL - to be concerned about owner rights and companies limiting your own rights, while you suggest to play a game based on an illegal crack. Really got to ROFLOL!
Sounds like always: It's okay, if you brake a law as long as I'm not hurt by it.

For someone who has been on the forum so long... You of all people could list the number of threads removed simply because the promise made have been so obviously not met.
But please even in your "let me please my masters voice" must admit Nike promised an update last month and Oleg promise (or as you would have us believe accidentally mentioned but did not really mean) a SOW webpage.
You really make me laugh because sadly you cannot help defending something you obviously know little about.
And nobody promised me anything. The only joy I get is reading a response like yours.

"Feuerfalke → 4/26/2009 1:35:24 AM

excrimsonve, like in RealLife, you just can't have it all. I'm sorry, but it's just not realistic to have a perfectly sim or product in every single regard. It's just impossible.

You don't have unlimited financial and personal resources. You cannot make a game and keep working on it for 10 years to make it perfect and then expect that the will refund all the money you had to pay for rooms, hardware, personell and production from the last 10 years.

And besides that, you also have to keep in mind that this sim must be able to run on average home PCs and available for a price that people are willing to pay.

So you have to take the consequences and make you priorities. That doesn't please everybody, isn't perfect in every single regard and it leaves flaws and ways to improve. But that's life.

And of course you know that a few more month of development won't add all the details you want."

You say the same thing no matter what the forum, Don't you get tired of protecting the developers at all costs...

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Bobb4

For someone who has been on the forum so long... You of all people could list the number of threads removed simply because the promise made have been so obviously not met.
But please even in your "let me please my masters voice" must admit Nike promised an update last month and Oleg promise (or as you would have us believe accidentally mentioned but did not really mean) a SOW webpage.
You really make me laugh because sadly you cannot help defending something you obviously know little about.
And nobody promised me anything. The only joy I get is reading a response like yours.

"Feuerfalke → 4/26/2009 1:35:24 AM

excrimsonve, like in RealLife, you just can't have it all. I'm sorry, but it's just not realistic to have a perfectly sim or product in every single regard. It's just impossible.

You don't have unlimited financial and personal resources. You cannot make a game and keep working on it for 10 years to make it perfect and then expect that the will refund all the money you had to pay for rooms, hardware, personell and production from the last 10 years.

And besides that, you also have to keep in mind that this sim must be able to run on average home PCs and available for a price that people are willing to pay.

So you have to take the consequences and make you priorities. That doesn't please everybody, isn't perfect in every single regard and it leaves flaws and ways to improve. But that's life.

And of course you know that a few more month of development won't add all the details you want."

You say the same thing no matter what the forum, Don't you get tired of protecting the developers at all costs...

Wow, deleted posts with promises about news and releases, links and screenshots of those vanished from the internet and most peoples memory, games and features held back to make the customers suffer and pay for addons, pushed back releases because developers are still counting their earned billions, programs scanning your PC for secret documents, distribution tools sending precious files directly from your PC to some secret site, most likely in Russia or some bada$$ US mega-company, ...

LOL - do you really believe in all of the crap you post or do you just need to vent your paranoia? What do you think is STEAM interested in on your PC? Your recently downloaded porn?

Besides, I'm not protecting anybody. Neither Oleg, Maddox Games, 1C, STEAM or Neoqb need my protection. But I'm also involved in the business enough to understand what is going on behind the scenes and as I'm part of neither of the above, I can freely post my experiences and my view from the inside out on some kiddies banging in the door of the candy-shop.

Forget it Bobb, you cant educate Pork.

[virre89]

Originally Posted by zapatista

if you'r living in siberia maybe, the scenery looks like crap to me, old il2 trees on top of flat painted tiles that have no detail in them

If you fail to see the technological advancements that's being utilized in the product you're nothing but a failure to yourself. It's not even worth discussing since you're arguments are nothing but bs. Do you know anything about hardware , software and game development? If so then you might wanna reconsider.

Originally Posted by zapatista

i dont care about what DRM is or will be, but i will only buy good products that are convenient for me to use whenever and wherever I want to, rather then just when some greasy haired con men think so.

to me you sound like a fanboy who'd give his soul just so he can play with a new toy, while not minding he is getting shafted by a demon at the same time

I am the fanboy ?
Seriously who's the fanatic here..
You're the one bashing the product before it's even released and making false accusations while trying to spread the word about "OH the almighy Neoqb is coming to fool us with a product worse than IL2 only to piss people off and let's wait for the SAINT Storm of War instead people".

Originally Posted by zapatista

why ? it was a hyped product all along. it attracted attention because there was a lack of new fligtsims in the last yr or 2. pre release testing shows it is VERY buggy and they are trying to rush it out the door to recoup some money while they can. its got a wiff about it that reminds me of the wings over vietnam fiasco

First of all, pre-release testing shows huh?
Source plox?

It's been in development for over 3 years and it has nothing to do with Wings of Vietnam , another pathetic attempt to bash the product to make you feel better about yourself. (why are you even wasting your time kid)

And if RoF is a hyped product what isn't BoB then?
You claim me to be the fanboy while you're worshiping oleg confident of how it's already gonna be a 10x leap over RoF and all the others sims out there without even seeing a SINGLE game play video of it and rarly hearing any information at all.

Originally Posted by zapatista

might be good enough reason for you, but the rest of the world makes their decisions based on somewhat different criteria.
- the scenery it looks like crap to me, its flat, lifeless, and has lots of old il2 trees bunched up to pretend and make it 3D.
- the planes look nice enough, but only in the same way that the il2 current planes with updated skins look nice, its got no leap forward in detail in the same way that olegs new BoB planes do
- no offline play
- no lan play, no direct pc connection play
- no dynamic campaign for solo or coop play (only on the internet)
- some big brother thing it will tag my pc and track whatever happens on it and with it, without my permission
- you need to pay to fly new planes they make, even if others already fly them against you online

no thanks, they sure aint getting my 50$


the only thing i thought looked pretty good from some of the previews, is the demo vid where they show the little balloons tracking airflow around the aircraft, and this changing with the engine being rev'd on the ground (postulating there is complex airflow/object interaction being modeled in the sky, but that is a wait and see issue to see how well it improves flight modeling). but i saw no mention of the complex airflow and weather modeling oleg is building, so that could be a fizzer to.

Another bash attempt here we go...
Since WHEN do you know why i I buy this product?
Since WHEN do you know why everyone else doesn't or does buy it?
(pathetic once again)

I've yet to see the fake 3d models you're on about however there is no secret that in a flight simulation you've to make sacrifices in favor for performance. Seriously you can't draw over 500.000 trees that are true 100% detailed 3d models and expect to run it on a high end machine today...
I am sure that if it was possible in terms of time, money and system requirements the ROF team would love to have Crysis graphics on the ground for all entities and units just as much as the Crysis team would love to have insane flight aerodynamics and a world gameplay map as large as the one in RoF, but you see they're two different games focusing entirely on their own agenda not world domination and perfection in every corner.
(use your brain please i beg you)

Take a good look at the scenery again before you judge the game, it's not even worth discussing with you. I am glad you're not being a part of it's community tho such a wanky whiner.

[Bobb4]

I have no issue with online authentication or anything ROF for that matter. I have an issue that the beta is too short, but that is a post on another thread and forum.
I do have an issue on this forum when people have comment on issues in previous (since deleted threads) and then pretend to not remember them...

[Robert]

So it's official? The ZOO has moved?

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Robert

So it's official? The ZOO has moved?

I've bought my popcorn cup, and peanuts for the best performers.

Ins