A worrying thought!!! - Page 4

JG52Uther · #31 07-02-2012, 12:55 PM

Eddited a couple of posts, please keep the language civil.

Bewolf · #32 07-02-2012, 01:04 PM

Got RoF back in the days when it was just released and could not play it due to perfomance Issues. Tried it 2 years later and ended up doing quite a few quick missions, but never got into the campaign.

Multiplayer was rather boring, did not help that my poor stock aircraft got outperformed by those pay to play aircraft everybody got into, so I lost interest here really fast.

Tried again another year later and got to know that in the meanwhile an "iron cross" edition was released, with lots of aircraft goodies. Graphics and the engine itself by now were really good and fluid, but I felt ripped off and never touched the game again. The news about all that micro transaction stuff did not much to improve here, either.

I'd rather they released some big scenario packs (like the channel map) with according maps and aircraft included for a retail price instread of all the stuff you have to get in singles. 15€ for a bomber is quite a bit of money which I would pay if the rest of the Sim was up for it...however, it isn't

Yes, the aircraft going vertical to the ground with just a bit of "puff" when making contact is indeed quite bothersome.

This from someone who played Red Baron and Red Baron 3D to death and once really looked forward to RoF.

JG52Uther · #33 07-02-2012, 01:08 PM

Of course there is one rather large difference between RoF and CoD. The £30 or so I spent on CoD has been pretty good value for me. One day I am hoping 777 fix the FM's of the Albatros,DVII, CL2,Bristol etc etc, still waiting for some of them three years later...

skouras · #34 07-02-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

Joining with 777 studios guys is for me the only way to make this game to work, as RoF Open beta tester can say that their work is just exelent.

agreed

5./JG27.Farber · #35 07-02-2012, 01:18 PM

Does RoF even have anything happening on the ground yet? Last time I played it was just black lines for trenches with constant artilley barrages to mark the front. No tanks or infantry or anything going on at all just a few trains and AA pieces.

The thing with RoF is that theres no real performance data for the aircraft only pilot accounts, this is all good and well but really this is hearsay or folklore. Its a good indication but not a science. Plus the fact its pay for plane so as I see it they are making the game balanced in a way that means they can sell more planes.

Plus my original point that I paid out 30 quid only for them to just give it away 15(?) months later for free with out any kind of reward for the people that bought their broken project (just like many of you feel toward clod). Imagine if in a few months clod was free and you only had to buy expansions which really were just a plane bundle, maps and ground units and models? How would you feel? In fact the MG method is cheaper and better come to think of it.

RoF you buy 1 plane at a time but compare that to the cost of an expansion for clod, even if its 30 quid again, new maps, new flyables, new AI aircraft, new ground objects... Its quite a bargain if you compare it to RoF.

RoF is just not for me, 777 left a bad taste in my mouth when (as I see it they ripped me off). I am just not as interested in WW1 as I am WW2. WW1 just doesnt have the dynamics of WW2. Quite frankly I just dont trust 777 to be historically and realistically accurate.

Anyway its useless even talking about it. You cant just suggest two different companies merge and make what you expect. Stop living in a dream world.

As someone said before, even with all its faults, Cliffs of Dover is the only WW2 CFS around that offers as much as it does.

So bob or tree or who ever you are, thats it for this thread as far as Im concerned and if you just really dont like whats going on with clod then why are you even here? - I dont need an answer to this its a rhetorical question.

Peace and S!

philip.ed · #36 07-02-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zapatista

for the uninformed, ...... CoD was forced to be released 1 yr to early (all details available on this forum so you can educate yourselves), and it was either that or NOTHING. there is no 3e alternative where you can stomp your little feet on the ground and say "but i want it and i want it now". if you look at what CoD is 1 yr later (ie right now in june 2012) it is in an acceptable form for what would have been an initial release

See it's comments like this which makes your whole argument flawed. CloD was released early, yes, but by one year? I'm sorry but there's no tangible evidence to prove this at all.
We all know it was rushed to hit the shops, but after 8 years I have no sympathy for the team. The community provided a lot of help and support and it still came out a mess. And after one year, unlike what you say, many features which worked originally don't (FM's are up and down, cloud shadows are gone, reflections gone, those lovely cockpits don't look the same, the lighting has worsened) so it's hardly the progress your hated RoF took. CloD is progressing at a ridiculously confusing rate. Whatever the reasons for it being a mess after 8 years are, it really isn't acceptable. The original videos were filmed at 1/8 speed! How can that be used to market the product?! It's completely unscrupulous.

I have full respect for the team (they have taken the communities views on board on numerous occasions) but whereas RoF shows forward moving improvement, CloD is one step back, two steps forwards, one step forwards, two steps back. And that's at the best of times.

It will take a miracle for it to turn into the best BoB sim within a year. I fired up BoB2 last week (which I can play happily) and the immersion was light-years ahead of CloD. And the AI still amazes me today.

CloD may be technically ahead of RoF, but if it can't play properly this lead is lamentable.

csThor · #37 07-02-2012, 01:57 PM

777 Studios do their own stuff and no amount of wishful thinking will bring on a merger. If anything 1C (the mother corporation of MG) could buy out Jason's company if they wanted, they're large enough after all. It's an undeniable fact that Maddox Games does things much differently than 777, lamentable or not (that's up to each person to decide for himself), but the steady "Why don't you give the code to 777" or "Why don't you join 777" is getting boring.

Besides, Jason does things on his own timetable. He doesn't have humorless suits who have no life beyond "shareholder value", "business bla bla" or "$$$ €€€" breathing down his neck. Simple as that ...

simast · #38 07-02-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

"~ and then the plane goes bouncy, bouncy, bouncy on the ground" LMAO

hint

if you want RoF, go play RoF

HINT: all WW1 aircraft is made of wood and canvas. Tho to be honest - I have no clue what the guy is talking about in the first place (never seen any crash that resulted in a such a horrible bouncing as described by him).

simast · #39 07-02-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor

Besides, Jason does things on his own timetable. He doesn't have humorless suits who have no life beyond "shareholder value", "business bla bla" or "$$$ €€€" breathing down his neck. Simple as that ...

Exactly. He actually flew for 18 hours (!) online this weekend with the rest of the community. Imagine some suit from 1C (or even Luthier whatever from MG) doing anything like that. Yeah right

5./JG27.Farber · #40 07-02-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by simast

Exactly. He actually flew for 18 hours (!) online this weekend with the rest of the community. Imagine some suit from 1C (or even Luthier whatever from MG) doing anything like that. Yeah right

I dont want Luthier flying with me, I want him working on the sim. Jason obviously doesnt have much to do nowadays except enjoy himself - truley this is a symbol of decadance over at 777 and perhaps even a sign of decline?