Upcoming Patch FM Changes

bw_wolverine · #1 04-13-2012, 12:54 PM

EDIT:We will obviously have to wait and see for any real conclusions to be made about the upcoming changes. This thread is just about your gut feelings. I'm very happy changes are being made.

Sooo according to today's update (Apr 13), the RAF planes are pretty much getting WORSE. No talk at all about any changes to current Blue planes except Italian G.50.

How do you feel about this?

Personally:

Spit IIa needed to be brought back a little bit from its current performance, but 60mph across the board seems like a bit much. That almost seems like it will be made to fly like the current Ia!

Hurricane made worse than it is currently? Great. Had a hard enough time as it is. I guess Hurricane pilots will have to switch tactics to 'get to 21k ft and dive at enemy. try to get big hit or ram him. if you miss, try to keep diving over england and bail out before your wings come off or he catches and shoots you'.

Spit Ia receives minor change. Not sure how it will affect its overall performance, but I at least expected some kind of a speed increase in level flight at all altitudes. Zip.

All the above opinions are obvious PRE-patch, so maybe I'm wrong on all counts. I hope I am.

fruitbat · #2 04-13-2012, 12:55 PM

lets wait and see.....

bw_wolverine · #3 04-13-2012, 01:04 PM

I just hope the devs realize that the RAF flight data is in MPH not KPH. That would explain the problems.

recoilfx · #4 04-13-2012, 01:09 PM

Wolverine, Luthier said "sometimes 60 mph better than the real thing.", not across the board.

There will be game play adjustments on the ATAG server if things get out of balance. There is no conspiracy on the ATAG to keep the red players out. We like challenges.

Faustnik · #5 04-13-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fruitbat

lets wait and see.....

I sure hope the radiator damage is fixed. Right now, 109 (spits and hurries too) can fly a long range with full power after both radiator damage and all gycol lost.

bw_wolverine · #6 04-13-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Faustnik

I sure hope the radiator damage is fixed. Right now, 109 (spits and hurries too) can fly a long range with full power after both radiator damage and all gycol lost.

Um, Spits and Hurries have nearly complete engine failure after a rad hit within 1 to 2 minutes. I will agree that the 109 can keep going. A 109 pilot told me that I perforated his radiator and he was losing oil and yet he still flew for 10 minutes in hard dog fighting. This happened on Wednesday.

I might add that I have no way of knowing how long he could keep going because I left the server before his engine started to feel any effects.

fruitbat · #7 04-13-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Faustnik

I sure hope the radiator damage is fixed. Right now, 109 (spits and hurries too) can fly a long range with full power after both radiator damage and all gycol lost.

agree with the 109, spit dies rapidly with rad damage though. Good to see you here Faustnik

SlipBall · #8 04-13-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fruitbat

agree with the 109, spit dies rapidly with rad damage though. Good to see you here Faustnik

+1

any recent big bass caught Faustnik?...sorry for the OT

bw_wolverine · #9 04-13-2012, 06:33 PM

I guess it's quite possible that radiator failure on a 109 isn't as devestating as it would be in a Spit/Hurri?

If that's historically correct, then I guess it's okay. Just a little more uphill for us Red to climb

Kwiatek · #10 04-13-2012, 06:33 PM

We know that all planes need FM and peformacne revsion.

We know that all planes are lacked in performacne at higher alts operation.

We know that in CLod British fighters lack 100 Octan fuel and +12 lbs mainfold pressure perfomance ( both Spitfire MK1 and Hurricane MK1)

We know that 109 E lack in speed also at low alts - now it reach only 460 kph at 0 km instead about 500 kph.

These facts are confirmed by RL data and test.

I just want see speed/climb polars after beta patch but looking at Luthier todays news about FM changes i have many doubts about performacne CLoD fighters.

Luthier didnt mention about use 100 Octan fuel ( +12lbs) performacne in British planes but rather about redcution speed. The same he wrote only about minor changes in 109 FM.

Also Luthier said that they have problem to make accurate performance at higher alts beacuse of FM engine problems - i really wonder about it beacuse even in old good Il2 it was possible to get satisfactory results expecially in speed and climb performacne even at higher alts ( i know about it beacuse i was FM modder for Ultr@Pack).

I have really big doubts now that it would be make in fair and historical way but we all could see soon.