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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Gore or no Gore that is the question?
Yes I want gore. 110 59.46%
No thanks. 39 21.08%
Not bothered. 36 19.46%
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Old 09-06-2011, 01:43 AM
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hmm well gore has its place in any war simulation game really. I guess it just depends on what type of simulation game you want. I for one have not noticed it missing while playing IL246 but I would put my self into the category of someone that would be pleasantly surprised to find a blood spattered cockpit and a slow red out as I bleed out, after one of the up coming patches. This has been something I find very fun playing ROF. when i see those red boarders around the screen the race is on to get out of combat and down to the ground on my side of the line before i loose consciousness.

I voted for gore by the way but I am assuming by wanting gore no one is thinking that means Exploding body parts and people being sawed in half by gunfire or ripped apart by G forces while trying to bail out of a plane flying to fast and spinning wildly. I know that this was a reality of the time, and I would not complain at all if it was put into the game but that is not really what I would be asking for when I vote on the subject Just a basic bloody mess and either I am dead rite away or have time to try and get out of the fight before bleeding out.

My 67 cents worth.

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Old 09-06-2011, 04:30 AM
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The desire for gore or no gore is simply a matter of taste..
In my opinion the presence of limbs blown off is in very bad taste..!

Look fellas, the thing I love most about flying online against my brothers in arms is the spirit of the contest. Matching my skills as an aviator (albeit virtual) against your skills.
I gain plenty of satisfaction when I occasionally do everything just right, and send my competitor to the ground in a trail of smoke.

I really don't need to see you decapitated...

Think about it,

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Old 09-06-2011, 06:28 AM
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No gore for me thanks, I have seen enough gore in my period as a voluntary in the emergency services, and the fact is that it's not pretty. Plus it's a complete waste of resources for the developers and for our pc's.

If you find yourself closing to the enemy that you have been fighting, in order to enjoy the blood in their cockpit ... you're doing something wrong, seriously. Another enemy will jump into you claiming vendetta while you are just enjoying the carnage.

If we are talking about enhanced effects when you are injured, maybe ROF style ... loss of periferal vision, sound fading, etc ... I would vote yes.

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Old 09-06-2011, 07:01 AM
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I haven't voted because as Krupi says it doesn't really get his point across.

Gore? Yes a bit of blood on the canopy is ok but don't waste dev time on any more. And the PEGI rating is a good point.

Disability due to wounding? Yes a great idea. Perhaps a limiting or loss of some control (left leg wound = limited or no left rudder) and maybe slower or no ability to bail out. But don't make it too complicated, there are more important things to fix. BUT fix the fact that you can't get out when you ditch!
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:15 AM
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I agree on the prioritization of this, it's pretty darn far down in the list. I voted for gore, but I think the poll is faulty as it has too little categories.

I don't want separated limbs, missing heads and guts but a clear indication that a pilot was hit and depending on the angle of the hit that might be some blood splatter in the instruments / windows. It would be an immersion thing to get a quick glance of it when for example your wing mate gets bounced out of the blue.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:35 AM
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IIRC, in the original IL2, gore switched on in the config.ini file did mostly nothing to most planes, but a successful head to head pass on an He111 could result in splattered red 'blood' on the cockpit glass, barely, but still visible as it flashed passed at the merge.

I think this was an original IL2 feature that was edited out due to classification considerations years ago. The He111 gore was a relic. But it was pretty cool.

It would be good to see similar low-key visual indications of crew injury in damaged planes introduced into CoD. Completely denying any stylised visual representation of injury in a combat sim does seem slightly silly.

On the the other hand, I've also gotta say that wanting to see separated limbs in a flight sim is pretty weird and I'm glad that nobody here is seriously suggesting that.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:45 AM
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That's the problem some are, unfortunately through the lack ability of the forum members and my foolishness in not realising this means that this poll is a load of balls as it doesn't separate the ones that want blood and those that want decpaitation!!
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I haven't voted because as Krupi says it doesn't really get his point across.

Gore? Yes a bit of blood on the canopy is ok but don't waste dev time on any more. And the PEGI rating is a good point.

Disability due to wounding? Yes a great idea. Perhaps a limiting or loss of some control (left leg wound = limited or no left rudder) and maybe slower or no ability to bail out. But don't make it too complicated, there are more important things to fix. BUT fix the fact that you can't get out when you ditch!
im not 100% sure, but i assume that it is already the way you describe in some aspects.
i had a couple of incidents, where i got wounded, and suddenly couldnt move the throttle anymore.

but that could be aircraft related as well.i dont know.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:22 AM
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I get the feeling that this has been brought up in the past with one of the interviews with Oleg. Will have to have a google and see.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:20 PM
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i don´t mind blood on the canopy, but severed limbs, no thx. but since gore (at least for me) means severed limbs, i voted no.
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