would be posible to give the customer option for a non violent game?

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by tk471138

when people defend themselves from those who seek to harm them is different from killing them cuz they dont conform to our will...my will is to be left alone...and since they wont do that i support violent revolution...

umm are you even paying attention...it is the elite who uses the violence to get us to conform to their will...and it is my suggestion to kill these people who feel that they are above others and as a result think that they must be followed and obeyed...

sorta like how if you dont pay your taxes they will come and kill your and your loved ones....(that is unless you submit and either pay them or allow them to put you in prison, where in the custody of the state your likely hood of being a victim of a crime skyrockets...)

you see im not a hypocrite...i dont impose to my will upon others...unlike the very people we are talking about....but you would rather defend your masters, like the good little slave that you are....grow up guy...the people in govt do not care for you or any of us...the people who control the world and its wealth want to enslave us...they do not want what is best for the human race...

you see im not the one who is killing or using pain as coerce people for not following orders (cops do this, and often times get away with crimes) im not the one maiming and killing thousands of innocents in order to fight unjustified war....im not the one putting people who simply use drugs in to prison or entangled in to the criminal justice system....im not the one threatening to remove children from their families because they are fat (they do this in the uk, and lets remember especially children when in the custody of the state are far more likely to be the victim of a crime(often times sexual abuse, although neglect and physical abuse are also common), and unlike adults in the custody of the state, can not defend themselves, and have little recourse....)

Interesting...... so one would assume your version of paradise or whatever is a world full of fat drug addicted people with no ambition, because ambition is the evil that leads people to become better than others and therefore considered elite, and also nobody would pay taxes so we would live in giant piles of filth in the dark with no water or any other infrastructure for that matter......I'm sorry but I just dont buy into the cospiracy theorists ideology, I don't believe the goverment is out to kill us nor are the monarchy even if they don't give a toss about us......but killing them just because we are jealous of their standing in life? thats ridiculous.

I might add the russians tried something close to what you suggest......worked out just great for them, replaced one oppressive regime with another.

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Interesting...... so one would assume your version of paradise or whatever is a world full of fat drug addicted people with no ambition, because ambition is the evil that leads people to become better than others and therefore considered elite, and also nobody would pay taxes so we would live in giant piles of filth in the dark with no water or any other infrastructure for that matter......I'm sorry but I just dont buy into the cospiracy theorists ideology, I don't believe the goverment is out to kill us nor are the monarchy even if they don't give a toss about us......but killing them just because we are jealous of their standing in life? thats ridiculous.

your post is full of logical fallacy lets break it down....
alcohol is legal and you dont have everyone in society drunk all the time....just cuz drugs may be legal would not mean everyone would do them...sorta like if murder was not a crime..people wouldnt be killing people all of a sudden....you see most people are not small minded fools who live life according to the laws of the state....most people dont use drugs not because its illegal but because they choose not to far various reasons....just like most people dont kill others because its illegal but because its something they are morally opposed to and because they value life...you really think that with out govt their would be trash in the street and no water??? so people can not organize with out a govt??

tell me if govt dosent want to harm us why do they allow the fda to allow dangerous drugs that are known to be harmful why do they put FLOURIDE in the water?? i mean to keep our teeth safe, when systemically ingesting flouride is very harmful to the health (or the reason why they make "baby water that is bottled and fluoridated)....is that why they allow BPA in many products....just another small minded person who uses logical fallacy of calling some thing 'conspiracy theory" to try and disprove what is generally well known....you do realize that those in power DO conspire...go read a dictionary...I guess we give children a cocktale of amphetamines because we care about them...because for a child to be distracted or not interested in things they dont really care about, is abnormal...go read about the medical and even more so psychology industry(listen to insiders of the industry), and how based on their actions and fruits, they are not out to heal the sick...you think if they were these prescriptions that are all over the place would probably be a bit more,effective and alot less harmful than they are...)

so why was their a concerted effort in the last few hundred years to eliminate the native peoples of the americas??(backed by the church and many monarchies..) because they want to suppress those cultures, who were above being controlled by forms of govt and banking that was prevalent in europe....the natives in the americas had no use for the banks and monarchies of europe, that was untill we destroyed their culture....

seriously you need to get out more and open your eyes....those in power dont care about you, or anyone else...

you know what else would happen if no one paid taxes...no more war...no more billons of dollars to send to 'rebels' who are or were enemy #1 (remember the rebels in the middle east are largely alqueda, even the supposed leader of the lybian rebels were even kidnapped rendered and tortured at a black site by the usa) but yea the us never formed alqueda as an intelligence asset, to fight the russians, i guess that never happened and will never happen..now these freedom fighters are the same people who are rounding up blacks and abusing or killing them(they have been doing this for months), and i guess that is on the usa since we were the one who supported them......

you say that i am jealous of those who are in power....but i have no desire to be able to dictate the terms of living to others...i actually believe in freedom and what a free society means, which is unless you infringe on the rights of others are aught to be left alone...you see im not another small minded person who just wants to be rich and powerful all i want is to be happy and success in whatever it is i do...after all money (cash) is fiat and worthless and the sooner people realize this the better....i have no desire to achieve power over OTHERS...the only thing that i want to impose on to others is liberty and freedom...

govt war medicine banks criminal justice system especially in todays world is a racket, its a means to siphon money from those who have it and work for it, to those who want more of it...

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Interesting...... so one would assume your version of paradise or whatever is a world full of fat drug addicted people with no ambition, because ambition is the evil that leads people to become better than others and therefore considered elite, and also nobody would pay taxes so we would live in giant piles of filth in the dark with no water or any other infrastructure for that matter......I'm sorry but I just dont buy into the cospiracy theorists ideology, I don't believe the goverment is out to kill us nor are the monarchy even if they don't give a toss about us......but killing them just because we are jealous of their standing in life? thats ridiculous.

I might add the russians tried something close to what you suggest......worked out just great for them, replaced one oppressive regime with another.

no the russians believe in communism the key word t here is COMMUNE....that is NOT freedom...living in a commune is not freedom in a commune the idea that, well if my neighbor eats unhealthy (according to ones opinion) it affects me if he/she gets sick and thus i have a right to dictate how they eat cuz it has the potential to affect me...or the idea that, well ones children grow up and their actions affect me, so adults must get a license to have a children, or should have govt cameras in their home to monitor them, or the children can just be wards of the state, because after all the state is the only entity that can raise a child in what they consider appropriate..

you do realize that a good amount great inventions were made not because of peoples intent to get rich, or powerful (while some had this in mind, many did not) you do realize the best leaders are not the ones who lobby and try and get themselves in that position, but those who are simply placed in that position based on their ability and achievement, and did not seek it out....

[bongodriver]

You have no right to impose anything on anybody....even if it is something as noble as liberty......so no taxes doesn't mean no infrastructure?......right , I'm affraid there would be no civilisation withou an hierarchical structure.....no civilisation....no infrastructure....just mud huts or teepees....yep back to the stone age it would be....but hey at least you would be able to smoke all the weed you wanted and not pretend it is 'for the pain'

yes alchohol is legal and some drugs are not....that is why the police arrest people who take illegal drugs....it's their job, most people dont take illegal drugs because they dont want to become socially inadequate zombies who need to commit crime to feed their addictions, I would argue most people would commit murder if it were legal, I dare say under those circumstances a face to face between us would be interesting, you sound unbalanced enough to try to kill me for having a different oppinion, fluoride in water......yeah.....people are dropping like flies all around me from fluoride poisoning.....but only the stuff in our water not the stuff in our toothpaste.

I really don't need to get out more....honestly, I travel the world quite alot, I don't need to read any more either, why do you assume I am uneducated just because I don't see it your way?

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by tk471138

no the russians believe in communism the key word t here is COMMUNE....that is NOT freedom...living in a commune is not freedom in a commune the idea that, well if my neighbor eats unhealthy (according to ones opinion) it affects me if he/she gets sick and thus i have a right to dictate how they eat cuz it has the potential to affect me...or the idea that, well ones children grow up and their actions affect me, so adults must get a license to have a children, or should have govt cameras in their home to monitor them, or the children can just be wards of the state, because after all the state is the only entity that can raise a child in what they consider appropriate..

you do realize that a good amount great inventions were made not because of peoples intent to get rich, or powerful (while some had this in mind, many did not) you do realize the best leaders are not the ones who lobby and try and get themselves in that position, but those who are simply placed in that position based on their ability and achievement, and did not seek it out....

name some.....and tell me what eventually happened to them.

[bongodriver]

You sound like a very paranoid person........classic side effect of cannabis use.

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

You have no right to impose anything on anybody....even if it is something as noble as liberty......so no taxes doesn't mean no infrastructure?......right , I'm affraid there would be no civilisation withou an hierarchical structure.....no civilisation....no infrastructure....just mud huts or teepees....yep back to the stone age it would be....but hey at least you would be able to smoke all the weed you wanted and not pretend it is 'for the pain'

yes alchohol is legal and some drugs are not....that is why the police arrest people who take illegal drugs....it's their job, most people dont take illegal drugs because they dont want to become socially inadequate zombies who need to commit crime to feed their addictions, I would argue most people would commit murder if it were legal, I dare say under those circumstances a face to face between us would be interesting, you sound unbalanced enough to try to kill me for having a different oppinion, fluoride in water......yeah.....people are dropping like flies all around me from fluoride poisoning.....but only the stuff in our water not the stuff in our toothpaste.

I really don't need to get out more....honestly, I travel the world quite alot, I don't need to read any more either, why do you assume I am uneducated just because I don't see it your way?

umm flouride dosent KILL (in most cases) it causes alot of joint and bone problems...and also some studies show thyroid issues as well...please do some reading and educate yourself....you see the difference between water and tooth paste is that people dont ingest toothpaste systemically..and even tooth paste has a warning label that states if swallow more than you use to brush your teeth you should contact poison control centers....but you wouldnt know that, you would have to read to find that out...also the flouride in our tooth paste is pharmaceutical grade, the stuff they put in the water is not...
please educate your self on the topics on hand instead of just stating the obvious, in an attempt to fallaciously refute my statement....

"I would argue most people would commit murder if it were legal"

if that is the case then the human race is truly doomed..

i guess unbalanced is thinking for ones self and not being totally subservient to govt, or the establishment...

i mean the fact that drugs have been illegal is something that is historically something very new....you talk as if this was always the norm...when it is in fact a very recent development in society, and one that has probably cause more harm than good...this is obvious....prohibition does not work in any context...not to mention prohibition is incomparable with a free society as well...

also to impose freedom upon people is a misnomer, technically people are born free...it is impossible to impose freedom upon people, people are inherently free, what is imposed upon them is essentially limits to those freedoms...this is something i do no want to do...if anything i want to perpetuate the status of the individual as a free and sovereign entity...

also as i have stated in a free society the only thing that a crime is something that directly infringes on the rights of others...stealing from people and trying to harm them or kill them is infringing on their rights...when somoene infringes on your rights, you have the right to defend your self even if this means you must use violence or kill, then so be it....

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

name some.....and tell me what eventually happened to them.

tesla was one...wright brothers...the exploration of space has generally been like this as well (though one may ague that the exploration of space has been a military industrial complex endeavor...)to name a few...
every day people do things not for profit not for personal gain but because they either love to do it, or love to help others...

what eventually happened to them is not relevant...

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

You sound like a very paranoid person........classic side effect of cannabis use.

ahh yes another logical fallacy...ad hominem attacks...
first where do i come off as sounding paranoid ??

second cannabis generally causes people to act paranoid because IT IS illegal...most people when they are committing what is an illegal act are generally paranoid...and rightfully so...please use some logic...

im pretty sure that if playing video games was illegal (because some 'authority' says its addictive, and is a waste of your time that they feel could be better spent serving them) and you continued to do so im pretty sure you might be paranoid, not because the playing the game causes such but because you are afraid of the artificial and imposed consequences of doing so....

[bongodriver]

And the goverments benefit from poisoning us with fluoride how?..........are you saying the master plan is to disable the human race with bad joints?