Patience is a virtue...

[the Dutchman]

...that i lack,but fortunately i decided to wait with buying this sim,depending on the experiences that people share here.

Having said that there's something i must get of my chest;
Although i understand peoples (ongoing)frustration the way some of you are going about it is without any respect for the dev's,i'm afraid sometimes you guys are chasing away Luthier,i hope he doesn't take all your negative comments personal,Jezus!

You and ONLY you decided you had to be among the first buyers,right?
So maybe you shouldn't put all the blame elsewhere?
If you followed the development of CoD closely,you could have picked up the signs that it could become a difficult birth for times!

C'mon guys lighten up,take a break,and take a good look in the mirror!

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by the Dutchman

C'mon guys lighten up,take a break,and take a good look in the mirror!

Can't. Turned it off. It's bugged and decrease FPS with 6-8 frames.

[the Dutchman]

Can't. Turned it off. It's bugged and decrease FPS with 6-8 frames.

LOL!

You lightened up,for sure!

[609_Huetz]

I am so happy to see that someone just found out that it's the customer's fault if you sell them a broken and incomplete product. I will bring that up on the regular monday-morning meeting at my company. Thanks for your words of wisdom.

Seriously...

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

To be honest its the other way around, Luthier seems to be chasing away the current and potential new customers, we have forgiven all the bare faced lies that we were told during development. Personally I saw through a lot of the bull crap that we were shown and told as most here know, but I never expected the release to be quite this bad, its very clear that no testing was done at all, and that the game was barely half finished (Luthiers own admission). With all that in mind you would of thought that they would be bending over backwards to keep us updated and to fix the most crucial elements of this sim, they should be deeply sorry and throwing every penny made from sales into fixing this game because they sold it under false pretences IMHO

+100

Originally Posted by the Dutchman;

So maybe you shouldn't put all the blame elsewhere?

Who else do you think we should blame if not the guys responsible for the development of this game?

As Tree said, we have been sold a product under false pretences, which is a legal offense btw, yet you want us to lighten up? Strange world you live in where you enjoy being screwed over...

I am sure Luthier is pissed beyond words that things have turned out the way they have, rightfully so, but given the track record of the entire CoD development, this community is the last group of people to be blamed for anything.

They should try EVERYTHING to keep us in the loop now to regain our respect, but as we all can witness, NOTHING. Zero interaction with the community, threads are being created by Luthier and you can consider yourself lucky if there are more than two replies from him within 30 pages...

Best example for how screwed up this situation has become is Luthier's reaction when I pointed out the porthole texture mishap. A MINOR issues which could have been delt with within 20 minutes and a "Thank you for spotting that!", but as we all could witness he insulted me, a paying customer, in public only to lose his face afterwards by being proven wrong.

Why on earth can't they embrace the help they are being offered and do away with all the evasiveness and secrecy. It's just beyond me...

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by the Dutchman

but fortunately i decided to wait with buying this sim

So you haven't actually bought it yet, but still feel its ok to have a go about people complaining after they have paid for something broken with their own hard earned money?
Maybe you should buy it, to help support the devs, and maybe, just maybe, it might stop this random collection of badly optimised programming going down the toilet.
One thing I will say for CoD in its current (and for the forseeable future) state, its almost single handedly cured my 10 year addiction for the il2 series...

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

One thing I will say for CoD in its current (and for the forseeable future) state, its almost single handedly cured my 10 year addiction for the il2 series...

Totally agree. Can't play IL2 because it's now so obviously old and outdated.
Can't play Cliffs of Dover until they sort it out.

Now learning to operate an A-10 Warthog and feel like a traitor.

[LoBiSoMeM]

I can fly IL-2 Cliffs of Dover ok. I'm having a great time since last two oficial patches. Great performance.

But people maybe think I have low expectations

or

A NASA computer

or

I lie a lot!

People tend to only listen the bad reviews. I cursed this sim a lot after the first crap release, but the work in patching the initial bugfest is in good pace. With the content we have now, we can have tons of fun!

But some people don't want to have fun, soem people here are just sick: they only want to point the obvious flaws.

I fly in IL-2 since 2001. Love old IL-2 1946. But CloD is a masterpiece, and I'm not an idiot to not see that what i already have, with all placeholders and bugs, is by far the best combat flight sim EVER MADE!

Just that... This isn't another FPS title of one boring franchise. Respect this work, fools!

[SlipBall]

Well I did buy it, but have not complained as of yet. Someday this is going to be a great trouble free sim...haven't been able to run it yet! but my money may help them survive

[addman]

I paid my 40€ for this game, I don't owe anybody to do anything. If I like the game and consider it functioning and playable with a lot of good content then I will praise it. If it's buggy, broken, unoptimized and lacking in content then I will tell it like it is. This is how a consumer should reason, if you try to defend something that doesn't deserve to be defended then you're doing other consumers a great disservice. As I said in the beginning, I paid what the game maker asked from me, he is the one who has to prove to me that I spent my money well.

Being a sim does not excuse this game in any way, that's selective thinking and is only for the deluded. A game is a game is a game, no more no less. Yes, patience is a virtue, maybe next time 1c/MG/Ubi can have the patience to wait for us to pay until their product is finished, patience is indeed a virtue that should apply to EVERYONE.