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Old 06-08-2011, 05:24 PM
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That was a joke post using photoshop. If you turn up your brightness to see through blackouts/dark terrain, then surely when you follow an enemy skyward you will have the opposite effect, and have whiteout.

Cool, I just remembered the pic more than the context.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:27 PM
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the best ways to see others while blackouting:

1-practice
2- go in training mode,cockpit view only,hud totally disabled,sim mode,dark map,10 ennemy pilots veterans,and train to see them ,u can add no map..it is very hard but good to train.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:55 PM
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blackoutsand redouts should be as i believe pope mentioned..more of a tunnel vision...darker around the edge and progressively lighter towards the middle. not a complete blackwash like it is here. that is the way it was in another game i used to play and worked well. the difference between turning up the brightness of the tv and setting the sensitivities is in a real plane you CAN adjust trim and such to give you more control. you cannot do anything about blackout save for a g-suit...which reminded me i would like that as an unlock in BoS. but conversely, as for shaking a finger at someone for turning the brightness to gain unfair advantage on the claim it wasnt in real life....in real life they didnt have a zoom feature either to help identify ac or see what direction it is breaking to. and how many of us use that?? you can argue that eveyone has that feature so the playing field is level...everyone has a brightness button too. i know players whose advice to getting more kills was to hit zoom to aim and shoot. i will fly how it suits me. i have no control over how others set things up to suit their taste. if i have issues with them...i just wont fly with them.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:35 PM
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Please note this---- I am the player responsible for JRHOODY sharing some information with everyone about help in Sim.....If you want to address your gripe then this should be aimed at me.

Firstly.....please read the Thread Header again..."how to see other's while blacking out "....read it again....?? Yes, setting's or not you still black out in the turn....you just make out what is going on around you clearer.

First please only use kind and considerate words toward my friend JRHOODY...he is a well respected player and forum member and i will not accept anything else. Mr Robotic Pope...I am only junior to your status as a respected expereinced player and senior forum member and your choice of script agreeable or not I still respect your views without challenge. But do not ever use the word "cheat" and my friend JRHOODY in the same sentence. Afford him the respect others pay you.

Second Sim is hard....I once posted my first funny view on Sim, and it was soon clear that this is where the real challenge lay. Arcade Lobbie's are a plenty...Realistic Lobbie's are more frequent now....Sim Lobbie's not so.

What JRHOODY did last night was offer to take me to one side....offer some hint's and tip's on setting of PS3 pad / Aircraft / TV settings. He did this for two hours of his own time and his only reward was maybe getting one more player into Sim that would otherwise feel reluctant. I would suspect that the outrage this has caused by going "public" on the Tv issue now tells me a lot more than I realised.

I have been offered help before...Yuma....No2 in Arcade Dogfight, a Great Great worthy Advisary and friend sent me some Custom setting for Spitfire's. Did it help me get into the top 50...yes....can I beat Yuma...Sanibelfram...Meoestro ..Mav...Ruffmonk....geckogeek....sweet mistic....FrogSaunders.....no i cant...but we have great memorable battles me trying and I think they appreciate a better opponent.

Scottyvt4 was instumental in being my Guide in stepping up into Realistic...taught me setting's, where to aim, how to catch the stall and many other thing's...was his advice a threat to anyone ? No I dont think so, but I play Realistic to a standard where I can offer an opponent a worthy challenge...but can I beat Mav...Rattman...Viper-ss...FOCK1T....Beanzie...JEOD....MonsterHQ...bousa t....piednoir...IKKURINA....Lebrave...WalterNovotn y...and the other great player...no I cant but I became a better opponent for being there thanks to Scottyvt4.

Now JRHOODY is helping me into Sim...how about busy Sim Lobbies with a lot of newer player's....that what my friend want's to achieve or at least try...

So with my Custom Tv and PS3 pad setting will I now go into Sim with an easier introduction...yes....am i encouraged to try Sim...yes....am I going to be a Killer overnight...NO...no setting will ever get me near the skill's from Olife-....McQ59...Kavorland...Walter....JR...MACADEMIC.. ...themeistor.....vdomini....But I do want to be in the game at least to witness them and learn to be a better opponent.


If I am ever in a Sim lobby and you object to me being in the game...send me a message and I will bow out not a word said. If you let me stay then allow me to learn from you....setting's or not...Skill is Skill and Good Sim players have it and allow me to be a worthy opponent.

So my friend JRHOODY.....thank you for trying to bring more into the Game




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Old 06-08-2011, 07:45 PM
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JRHOODY and WILLBOAR44 ARE A GENTLEMAN AND A GREAT AND FAIR PLAYERS,I PLAY OFTEN WITH THEM AND KNOW THEM .THEY ARE NOT A CHEATERS!!!
RESPECT TO U BOTH GUYS!!!
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Please note this---- I am the player responsible for JRHOODY sharing some information with everyone about help in Sim.....If you want to address your gripe then this should be aimed at me.

Firstly.....please read the Thread Header again..."how to see other's while blacking out "....read it again....?? Yes, setting's or not you still black out in the turn....you just make out what is going on around you clearer.

First please only use kind and considerate words toward my friend JRHOODY...he is a well respected player and forum member and i will not accept anything else. Mr Robotic Pope...I am only junior to your status as a respected expereinced player and senior forum member and your choice of script agreeable or not I still respect your views without challenge. But do not ever use the word "cheat" and my friend JRHOODY in the same sentence. Afford him the respect others pay you.

Second Sim is hard....I once posted my first funny view on Sim, and it was soon clear that this is where the real challenge lay. Arcade Lobbie's are a plenty...Realistic Lobbie's are more frequent now....Sim Lobbie's not so.

What JRHOODY did last night was offer to take me to one side....offer some hint's and tip's on setting of PS3 pad / Aircraft / TV settings. He did this for two hours of his own time and his only reward was maybe getting one more player into Sim that would otherwise feel reluctant. I would suspect that the outrage this has caused by going "public" on the Tv issue now tells me a lot more than I realised.

I have been offered help before...Yuma....No2 in Arcade Dogfight, a Great Great worthy Advisary and friend sent me some Custom setting for Spitfire's. Did it help me get into the top 50...yes....can I beat Yuma...Sanibelfram...Meoestro ..Mav...Ruffmonk....geckogeek....sweet mistic....FrogSaunders.....no i cant...but we have great memorable battles me trying and I think they appreciate a better opponent.

Scottyvt4 was instumental in being my Guide in stepping up into Realistic...taught me setting's, where to aim, how to catch the stall and many other thing's...was his advice a threat to anyone ? No I dont think so, but I play Realistic to a standard where I can offer an opponent a worthy challenge...but can I beat Mav...Rattman...Viper-ss...FOCK1T....Beanzie...JEOD....MonsterHQ...bousa t....piednoir...IKKURINA....Lebrave...WalterNovotn y...and the other great player...no I cant but I became a better opponent for being there thanks to Scottyvt4.

Now JRHOODY is helping me into Sim...how about busy Sim Lobbies with a lot of newer player's....that what my friend want's to achieve or at least try...

So with my Custom Tv and PS3 pad setting will I now go into Sim with an easier introduction...yes....am i encouraged to try Sim...yes....am I going to be a Killer overnight...NO...no setting will ever get me near the skill's from Olife-....McQ59...Kavorland...Walter....JR...MACADEMIC.. ....vdomini....But I do want to be in the game at least to witness them and learn to be a better opponent.


If I am ever in a Sim lobby and you object to me being in the game...send me a message and I will bow out not a word said. If you let me stay then allow me to learn from you....setting's or not...Skill is Skill and Good Sim players have it and allow me to be a worthy opponent.

So my friend JRHOODY.....thank you for trying to bring more into the Game




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Maybe I should apologise. It was not my intention to call JRHOODY a cheat. I just was a bit anoyed by how he replied to my first post using agressive style 1st, 2nd, 3rd statments, pointedly telling me I am wrong when he clearly didn't have the full infomation of the history of the game or knowlage about differing TV settings.

Now perhaps cheating is too strong a word for a cheat this minor. Exploiting is maybe a better word. Unlike the control sensitivity, the brightness control is not there for this intention. But then if you are all happy employing this while playing each other then i'm glad you are enjoying playing sim.
But to come on this forum and basicaly say "Hey everyone, this how you can do it too" is obviously going to get some frowns even if your intentions are good.
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:17 PM
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Can you post a screenshot of what it looks like in normal flight, and then in a high-G turn, please?
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:25 PM
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A few interresting points in this discussion...
Been following this forum a lot in quiet for a long time, more often than I've been playing the game.

I wan't to play sim, only. But it is hard.
It's been amazing to see the skills of the aces on the recent sim games I've joined.
The other night I experienced the best so far.
A series of FW190's vs P51's and it was great.
A couple of nights ago I hoped to follow up on that... but what a disaster.
Last efforts were 1vs1 aganist KAV. Must have bored him to death with my skills

The longevity of BoP is fantastic. And as of late it even seems to grow.
I wan't to be better. To be a worthy teamplayer, a better opponent.
Because that's when BoP is thrilling.

But seems the learning curve took another steep climb.
I'm willing to learn everything there is to know, within the limits and borders intended in creating BoP.
So if someone is willing to share, just do it
Maybe a thread in the form of Q&A??

Thank you, now I'll wipe the sweat of my hands and pad get up there for more beating
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:40 PM
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Being objective, I took BoP round to a friends house, first thing I noticed was that the blackouts were black, really black. At home I can see something through the blackout even when it's full on.

The main reason for this is that his TV cost £1500 more than mine. I have to push the brightness on my HD LCD because it's just not a satisfactory image if I calibrate it 'properly'. His has a much better black than I get.

If JRHOODY told my mate to turn up his brightness he'd say thanks, where I may say turn it up? That's cheating, etc..

Not everyone here is starting from the same position, for some pushing the brightness may just get them to where you already are.

The only real way this would be a big advantage would be on a CRT TV where brightness and contrast have a much more pronounced effect.
But a CRT TV would be a disadvantage because of the resolution.
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:08 PM
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[QUOTE=WildBoar44;295095]Please note this---- I am the player responsible for JRHOODY sharing some information with everyone about help in Sim.....If you want to address your gripe then this should be aimed at me.

Firstly.....please read the Thread Header again..."how to see other's while blacking out "....read it again....?? Yes, setting's or not you still black out in the turn....you just make out what is going on around you clearer.

First please only use kind and considerate words toward my friend JRHOODY...he is a well respected player and forum member and i will not accept anything else. Mr Robotic Pope...I am only junior to your status as a respected expereinced player and senior forum member and your choice of script agreeable or not I still respect your views without challenge. But do not ever use the word "cheat" and my friend JRHOODY in the same sentence. Afford him the respect others pay you.

Second Sim is hard....I once posted my first funny view on Sim, and it was soon clear that this is where the real challenge lay. Arcade Lobbie's are a plenty...Realistic Lobbie's are more frequent now....Sim Lobbie's not so.

What JRHOODY did last night was offer to take me to one side....offer some hint's and tip's on setting of PS3 pad / Aircraft / TV settings. He did this for two hours of his own time and his only reward was maybe getting one more player into Sim that would otherwise feel reluctant. I would suspect that the outrage this has caused by going "public" on the Tv issue now tells me a lot more than I realised.

I have been offered help before...Yuma....No2 in Arcade Dogfight, a Great Great worthy Advisary and friend sent me some Custom setting for Spitfire's. Did it help me get into the top 50...yes....can I beat Yuma...Sanibelfram...Meoestro ..Mav...Ruffmonk....geckogeek....sweet mistic....FrogSaunders.....no i cant...but we have great memorable battles me trying and I think they appreciate a better opponent.

Scottyvt4 was instumental in being my Guide in stepping up into Realistic...taught me setting's, where to aim, how to catch the stall and many other thing's...was his advice a threat to anyone ? No I dont think so, but I play Realistic to a standard where I can offer an opponent a worthy challenge...but can I beat Mav...Rattman...Viper-ss...FOCK1T....Beanzie...JEOD....MonsterHQ...bousa t....piednoir...IKKURINA....Lebrave...WalterNovotn y...and the other great player...no I cant but I became a better opponent for being there thanks to Scottyvt4.

Now JRHOODY is helping me into Sim...how about busy Sim Lobbies with a lot of newer player's....that what my friend want's to achieve or at least try...

So with my Custom Tv and PS3 pad setting will I now go into Sim with an easier introduction...yes....am i encouraged to try Sim...yes....am I going to be a Killer overnight...NO...no setting will ever get me near the skill's from Olife-....McQ59...Kavorland...Walter....JR...MACADEMIC.. ...themeistor.....vdomini....But I do want to be in the game at least to witness them and learn to be a better opponent.


If I am ever in a Sim lobby and you object to me being in the game...send me a message and I will bow out not a word said. If you let me stay then allow me to learn from you....setting's or not...Skill is Skill and Good Sim players have it and allow me to be a worthy opponent.

So my friend JRHOODY.....thank you for trying to bring more into the Game




Wildboar



.[/QUOTE thank you for your kind words wildboar my friend, as far as directing criticism to you i wont have that, the settings is for seeing planes up close spot the enemy sooner yes and seeing others while blacking out, i truely am sorry if people dont like what i have done but there is a bigger picture here as wildboar said trying to help the new players is the main reason i did this,and it works 100%see i felt that shooting the new players up all the time getting 10, 20 kills was not on, even if i injoyed it, for those of you that have tryed the settings good on you?ps post your findings folks,

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