Yet another week of running in the dark.

[Rather peeved]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I think it's more of a sign that they appear to have little concern about the folk who purchase their product(s), it seems it's all about the money now, I guess it has to be, all the work being done at this moment in time is aimed purely at American sales.
Have we ever had an official apology and some sort of explanation as to why we were sold a product that they knew was unfinished, yet at the same time continued to deceive us right up to release? I'm certain If they truly cared we would have had that humble statement from the dev's, not even a 'sorry guys' from Oleg whose been lucky to have enjoyed such a loyal following for all these years. I'm sure that had they had the decency to make such a statement that they would of been forgiven by the mass majority for the poor state of the game upon release. Until that statement is made then I personally have little trust or faith in what this current team do or say, 'actions speak louder than words'.

I agree. it would be churlish to be demanding updates every week if they had produced a complete and fucntioning game, but the fact is they didn't - they produced a game that was fundamentally broken.

until the game is running smoothly and as advertised, you would think they would be bending over backwards to keep some very angry customers happy.

[the Dutchman]

It's going under,just like Silent hunter 5!(with 1 difference,SH5 was meant to do that..)

[hiro]

Yeah I'm going to have to agree with whats being said. I mean I still am thankful for the weekly updates and devs keeping us in the loop that time. And the hard work they've done.

But this has to be a really nerfed (botched / broken etc) release of a game. Especially one that is supposed to be a successor to IL-2 1946.

Maybe the US release will be better off and with things fixed but still; they shouldn't of released it.


Maybe it could be some new marketing plot . . . The polished game thing is expected.

How about a dramatic problem release, that kicks everyone in the nuts / ovaries, a donkey hoof blow to the stomach.

It attaches to the people like a all action / horror / glorifying the criminal movie does.

"CLiffs of Dover failure sucks." its in everyone's mind. Then US release. Has a well polished game. Distribution problems is fixed. We get the devs talking back to the community like old days.

Because of a tragedy its bond everyone together.

But me, I'd just gone and made a kick ass product, that works, and release it when it's ready and come out a super hero from the start. None of this dark knight junk.

Hey devs just a lil prayer going your way. even if the game was released and it was all good, you still need it

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by kalimba

Ok...For fun, I'll give it a shot.... :

Oleg had a contract as the lead designer with UBI and had to lead the project to the finish line and release it. Things went wrong at a personnal level with those two parts. Financing would be stoped unless Oleg finishes the project that went waaaaaay over time and budget, mainly due to Oleg 's passion for "overdetailed" nit-picking accuracy- historicaly- correct of and non-essential priority things....
Oleg's departure was a long time ago decision so the solution was to get rid of Oleg's contract and release the game a.s.a.p... Then finally Luthier was promoted to Lead designer and went under contract with UBI to finish the project. Then he got more money and time and new staff.
These are not patches that we have from time to time, these are parts of never before done things in the game that have to be patched after release.
Luthier is not patching the game, he is completing it....
So North American release is the last hope of making some success and money out of this game...Lots of pressure....

That is, of course, pure speculation, but I've seen that scenario before !

SAlute !

You could be right, it's been released early, thats a no brainer, odd thing is for some of us it works quite well, but some of the mistakes they make are hard to understand, it looks like they need some direction, I mean how did they let the 109pp hotfix come out having fixed the lever direction, but reversed the response required by the player and slowed it down to about 1/4 speed, its been mentioned before, but surely someone tested it and if so how did it get released, it's not an intermittent thing, it is broken for everyone?

Tree, an apology isnt really required, well at least I dont require one, words are cheap anyway, they havent run over your dog or anything serious it is just a $50 game, but what we do need is the outstanding issues to be fixed, without creating new ones (QA), then they can start on getting the FM's, weather, radio and all the goodies fixed.

But they do need to get their act together and in a hurry.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by kalimba

Luthier is not patching the game, he is completing it....

That's probably true.
Anyway, no use speculating on what went on before, as that's history now.

To the topic, we know the game is being worked on, but I'd like to know what aspects are being worked on.
What is the basic roadmap for the next month or two?

Hopefully the communty manager won't be absent for too long.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Tiger27

it is just a $50 game

Mmm...a lot of people spent good money on expensive hardware specifically for this game, and besides it's the monumental disappointment of finding out what state the game is in rather than what state it was supposed to be in.

I'm not bashing the game or anyone involved in the making of the game, don't get me wrong. But to a lot of people it is much more than just another game.
But I agree, no apology is neccessary. Fixing the game up to scratch is all that's required.

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

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Hopefully the communty manager won't be absent for too long.

I think that it’s particularly disappointing to not have heard from this person yet – luthier did state that his/her appointment was to keep us informed to prevent the propagation of “wild rumours” based on speculation. As others have said, a simple weekly update even to state they are yet to resolve a certain problem, although not ideal, is a damn site better than nothing.

[Ze-Jamz]

All i can say is if i were 'thinking' of getting this game and visiting here to get some info i would NOT buy it based on the antics of the DEVS..

I couldnt give a rats ass if theyve had no sleep for 4 weeks, i would like a weekly update nothing more on progress on a broken game i purchased quite a while ago now..

Its not a big ask and no one can say it is, its plain buisness

[Trooper117]

I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here from what I assume are adults..
I bought the game., it doesn't play as well as I would like on my system.
I have worked out by my own experience, and by reading through many threads on several forums that:

a. The game has not been released in a finished state.
b. My system needs upgrading so I can enjoy what I have.
c. Subsequent patches have not improved the game for me.
d. The developers seem to be making efforts to rectify the faults.

Now, do I expect some sort of 'apology' from the devs that the points above have highlighted?
Of course not.. I didn't have to buy the game.. I could have waited until most of the faults have been rectified before purchasing.
I've bought games in the past that worked fine, but guess what? I didn't like them.. they were not what I was expecting..
Funnily enough, as I didn't like what I had purchased, they were shelved or given away..
It never even crossed my mind to demand or expect some sort of apology!
What a pathetic politicaly correct miserable world we have turned into.. Pah!

[robtek]

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I'll drink to that, Trooper117