Tracers Rounds (From SimHQ)

[ChrisDNT]

"So the question to ChrisDNT is; Did you ever observe the 20mm tracer being fired by somebody else from a bit further away, rather than co-axial with the bore? "

Of course yes.
When near the canon (again, I can only speak for the Oerlikon54, basically a WII design), either as a gunner or a loader, you don't see anything (bullets are too fast when going out of the canon tube), but after some hundred meters, you see the back of the bullets as points, NOT AS LINES. The more far the bullets are, the slower the dots are to be seen of course (quite slow I must say, nothing like the speed of a "laser"). When the canon has been firmly held, the dots build a quite concentrated sheaf (called "the dangerous zone"), but if the canon has not been firmly held, you see the dots forming what we called a "banana"

If I remember well, the first Il-2 described this aspect quite correctly.



P.S: I will try if I can find my manuals somewhere and I will also contact an old friend of mine, who was for years engineer by Oerlikon.

[Vasilj_Mitu]

"but, I might be wrong there..." was in regard to shooter's position, as it's probably different to observe the tracer effects when firing from the shoulder/behind the gun from the one position where you sit in the cockpit above the guns, as in aircraft.

[ChrisDNT]

Originally Posted by Vasilj_Mitu

"but, I might be wrong there..." was in regard to shooter's position, as it's probably different to observe the tracer effects when firing from the shoulder/behind the gun from the one position where you sit in the cockpit above the guns, as in aircraft.

Not really, I remember having seen the canons firing from some distance, even outside the gunning area, never saw any "lasers".

[Defender]

LASER:

Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

The tracers in COD look nothing like lasers, lasers are focused continual beams of light, not individual bolts of energy.

Tracer rounds in WWII planes are meant as an aiming aid, so they're quite obviously visible from directly behind so that the gunner can see where his shots are going. Of course it the streaks lengthen as you move out to the x axis and they're moving so fast the eye behaves like a camera shudder creating glorified streaks.

[ChrisDNT]

"Of course it the streaks lengthen as you move out to the x axis and they're moving so fast the eye behaves like a camera shudder creating glorified streaks."

In real life, this is exactly the contrary. The nearer the bullets are from you, you could perhaps see some kind of "light line" outside the canon tube, but when the bullets are far from you (especially true at around 800-1200 meters) the tracers look like dots moving quite slowly.

[The Kraken]

Like this?

[Royraiden]

My only complaint is that they look too white and too bright.So Im pretty sure that's gonna be fixed soon after release,maybe by the devs or maybe by a modder.

[AA_Absolute]

I remember color lens if you look near sun in first versions of il2, beautiful camera effect but fake, removed now, good move to real.

Remove "sperm" tracerts of guncams another camera effect and good move to real.

If long tracers effect (aka lasers) are camera effects i dont like it, i wait Oleg and team remove (or make switch to disable) if are fake.

I´ve hope in Oleg and team love to detail.

Sorry for uglish

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

My only complaint is that they look too white and too bright.

Isn't that the main logic behind tracers?

Originally Posted by Royraiden

So Im pretty sure that's gonna be fixed soon after release,maybe by the devs or maybe by a modder.

Hopefully not by a modder.

[=WF=RAW]

Many times before, Oleg and his team says "we have all correct in our IL-2", but everybody knows, that it's not true.
so if luthier says something about "perfect tracers" it is not the "holy absolutely true", on which we must "pray"!
we will just see when we get the game. lets be patient.