yep: Tracers, WOP and Il-2 COD

[Daniël]

This should be clear. Il2 CoD tracers are OK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0cRk7FJOTQ

(Sorry, I know it's a minigun , not a WWII gun)

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Crane

Are there any ww2 pictures taken from a normal camera (not gun camera) that show tracer fire, surely a still shot taken from a normal camera would clear up this tracer debate once and for all.

No, as I said - I had a camera and took a photo of that exercise I described above and the image looked nothing like reality (with thousands of lines of light going against the road and then a fountain of lines going in all directions of the sky from the ricochets). In reality it was like a extremely thick swarm of glowing dots all over...

That was at night so the camera "error" was naturally extremely exaggerated by the extreme shutter time, but the error is still the same in daytime. A camera never take a picture of how the world really look

[Koyan]

I'm impressed by all that can be discussed about tracers based upon just a few screenshots Screenshots are pictures from ingame camera right? So the tracers are correctly illustrated Lets just wait for the game to arrive, see what the tracers look like then, and discuss from that point Sorry, couldn't resist. Please don´t flame me.

[kirq]

Originally Posted by Koyan

I'm impressed by all that can be discussed about tracers based upon just a few screenshots Screenshots are pictures from ingame camera right? So the tracers are correctly illustrated Lets just wait for the game to arrive, see what the tracers look like then, and discuss from that point Sorry, couldn't resist. Please don´t flame me.

How could You suggest that we have to wait and see actual ingame tracers before we judge them?! You Troll!

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Crane

Are there any ww2 pictures taken from a normal camera (not gun camera) that show tracer fire, surely a still shot taken from a normal camera would clear up this tracer debate once and for all.

Not WWII but Hispano at least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc9E8_ZuESQ

Emagine sitting at the end of that in a small fighter OMG.

[mazex]

Well, my participation in this thread is more of "academic" nature (which is fun too) as I'm pretty sure that they have worked on the tracers seen in the 3+ months old video used for the release trailer. You don't need to much sensitivity to read between the lines when Ilya sarcastically remarks this regarding the tracers people are complaining about: "They're correct now. They're perfection. They're ideal. They'll never change"

If they don't change them I really don't care as they should focus on getting other stuff right now and work on cosmetics like this later...

I want to have that "wow!" moment I had taking off with the 109 in the IL2 demo and realizing it really felt like flying a plane...

[winny]

All the tracer you could ever need...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyF0G7g4KfY

Completley irrelevant I suppose but worth seeing.

[JVM]

The funny thing is that quite old video (5 y+) is in fact an advertisement trailer for the Dixon Aero M134D minigun...I saw it first at the AAAA tradeshow in 2006...Still impressive, but I guess in real use they lower the RoF a bit...

JVM

Never in the forums of flight simulators was so much complained, about so little, by so few.

[winny]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

Never in the forums of flight simulators was so much complained, about so little, by so few.

(Apart from yesterday, oh and the day before that, and the day before that an..)