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01-13-2011, 08:10 PM
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No expert here, granted, but reading post, following links and photos
That 110 wasn't shot down, it appears to be scavanged for spareparts and used later for gunnery practice COULD have been strafed perhaps, but that's a concession
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01-14-2011, 12:18 AM
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1. If you take a little tour of the airfield with google streetview, you can pretty much match the background of the photo with the actual view. So yes, definitely Montecorvino.
2. There are no signs of a forced landing. Paint scratches, dirt/dust screen, or bend structures. All we know is that it was written off due to damages we can not disclose, being forced down due to enemy action being the least likely one though. 3. The damages we can see on the picture I would attibute to the retreating German forces trying to damage the aircraft beyond repair and vandalism of Allied troops. 4. As the airfield was used by units of the USAAF it is not unlikely to see 345th pilots to pay a visit. Especially the left behind Fw190s must have been of great interest.
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01-14-2011, 12:18 PM
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 Just glad to be correctet. Most of my info is from memory and a few books, so something all ways gets mixed up lol.... The mystery here is not about the location, im 100% convinced its monte-corvino and if you do as one of the posters did with google, you can match the location.... But the plane. I know i get bashed etc, but the plane with ID S9+MP is listet as a 110-E1 i know the bar etc, but if we want to be story nerds, we need to find out the type of plane and what happend to it. It is deffently ZG1, it is deffently Italy between march and late August medio september On the sources on the Internet there is no ME-110 with code S9+MP shot down in Italy entire 1943 ************************************************** ****** Luftwaffe loss list 1943 (Incomplete so no good, but give an Idea) 03.01.1943 6./NJG1 Messerschmitt Bf 110F-4 Wnr.4745 Oblt Wolf 09.01.1943 5./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.2406 Uffz Roth 17.01.1943 Stab./JG51 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-2 Wnr.2156 Major Nordmann 18.01.1943 7./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.5591 Uffz Schnabel 20.01.1943 2./JGr Sud Messerschmitt Bf 109F-4 Wnr.8523 Lt Dau 20.01.1943 4./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.1178 Fw Heiden 07.02.1943 6./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.5315 Fw Salz 16.02.1943 1./(F)123 Junkers Ju 88D-1 Wnr.1243 Fw Kunze 07/08.03.1943 9./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.5547 Ofw Ahrens 08.03.1943 1/KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.5526 Fw Vestewig 08.03.1943 2./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.4355 Fw Rossmann 11.03.1943 3./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.4541 Oblt Schneiderbauer 12 03.1943 2./KG6 Junkers Ju 88A-14 Wnr.4355 Uffz Grau 13.03.1943 5./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.5615 Ofw Meyer 16.03.1943 3./KG6 Junkers Ju 88 Wnr.4532 Uffz Diemer 23.03.1943 Stab/JG77 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-6 Wnr.16381 Major Muencheberg 24/25.03.1943 5./KG6 Junkers Ju 88A-14 Wnr.144550 Oblt Rogge 25.03.1943 1/KG6 Junkers Ju 88A-14 Wnr.4354 Ofw Lang 25.03.1943 4./KG6 Junkers Ju 88A-14 Wnr.144537 Oblt Foerster 05.04.1943 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.7051 Hptm Geisshardt 11.04.1943 1./NJG1 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-4 Wnr. 4881 Uffz Vogel 14.04.1943 7./JG2 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.0733 Uffz Armbruster 20.04.1943 Erg.St./StG.77 Junkers Ju 87R-1 Wnr.5444 Uffz Tremel 29.04.1943 4./(F)123 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-4 Wnr.14764 Fw Quante 04.05.1943 3./JG27 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-4 Wnr.16164 Uffz Doerrer 07.05.1943 6./JG5 Messerschmitt Bf 109F-4 Wnr.14802 Ofw Brunner 11.05.1943 3./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.1163 Lt Pleiss 16.05.1943 11./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.42399 Uffz Kaiser 22.05.1943 3/SKG10 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.52624 Uffz Kolz 23.05.1943 15./SKG 10 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.0189 Uffz Streich 23.05.1943 15/SKG10 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.50136 Uffz Schmidt 31.05.1943 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.57305 Fw Danneberg 01.06.1943 1./JG27 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-4 Wnr.14889 Uffz Reuther 13.06.1943 5./(F)123 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-4 Wnr.14910 Fw Sieker 16.06.1943 11./NJG3 Junkers Ju 88C-6 Wnr.360143 Uffz Hennecke 22.06.1943 4./(F)123 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-4 Wnr.14907 Lt Klaven 07.07.1943 5./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.2393 Uffz Friedrich 08.07.1943 1./(F)120 Junkers Ju 88D-1 Wnr. 430670 Fw Roesch 13.07.1943 16./KG2 Messerschmitt Me 410A-1 Wnr.1238 Fw Zwissler 15.07.1943 6./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.57310 Uffz Schwarz1 23.07.1943 Wekusta 2 Junkers Ju 88D-1 Wnr.430030 Uffz Auschner 25/26.07.1943 Dornier Do 217K-1 Wnr.4412 Uffz Reuth 26.07.1943 5./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.4395 Uffz Colve 30.07.1943 6./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.57311 Ofw Mackenstedt 06.08.1943 6./NJG 2 Messerschmitt Bf110E-2 Wnr.2531 Fw Dörr 12.08.1943 1./(F)121 Junkers Ju 88D-1 Wnr.430564 Lt. Roehrer 17.08.1943 3./NJG1 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-4 Wnr.5542 Uffz Neuner 22/23.08.1943 14./KG2 Messerschmitt Me 410A-1 Wnr.0228 Uffz Oertel 23.08.1943 9./JG26 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-6 Wnr.20442 Lt Karl 24.08.1943 16./KG2 Messerschmitt Me 410A-1 Wnr.0287 Fw Benner 24.08.1943 15./KG2 Messerschmitt Me 410A-1 Wnr.420214 Hptm Schmitter 29.08.1943 6./KG2 Dornier Do 217E-4 Wnr.5587 Uffz Scheuffelen 31.08.1943 5./(F)123 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-4 Wnr.14909 Fw Schiller 31.08.1943 5./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-6 Wnr.530118 Oblt Matoni 14.09.1943 4./(F)123 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-4 Wnr.19194 Oblt Wittmer 28.09.1943 4./NJG5 Messerschmitt Bf 110G Wnr.? Hptm Schienerer 03.10.1943 Stab III/NJG3 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-4 Wnr.5560 Hptm Sigmund 04.10.1943 5./ZG76 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-3 Wnr.4906 Lt Metzen 04.10.1943 1./(F) 22 Junkers Ju 88D Wnr.1682 Lt.Hoss 07.10.1943 1./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.1900140 Lt Matthiesen 07.10.1943 Erg-Staffel/KG6 Junkers Ju 188E-1 Wnr.260204 Oblt Jung 14.10.1943 3./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-4 Wnr.5807 Uffz Richter 20.10.1943 2./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.5894 Uffz Kratzel 23.10.1943 4./KG30 Junkers Ju 88A-14 Wnr.550131 Uffz Krisam 01.11.1943 3./KG6 Junkers Ju 188E-1 Wnr.260198 Lt Reckin 05.11.1943 8./KG6 Junkers Ju 88S-1 Wnr.140583 Lt Bernhard 06.11.1943 3./SKG10 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.5823 Fw Pichler 08.11.1943 Stab/(F)122 Junkers Ju 88D-1 Wnr.430593 Major Orlowski 08.11.1943 15/KG2 Messerschmitt Me 410A-1 Wnr.10244 Major Schmitter2 11.11.1943 2./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190A-5 Wnr.1170 Uffz Spiegel 23.11.1943 2./NJG2 Junkers Ju 88C Wnr.750693 Ogfr Darge 26.11.1943 10./JG26 Focke Wulf Fw 190 Wnr.530769 Lt Fischer 26.11.43 6./JG27 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-6 Wnr.160842 Gefr. Soentgerath 26.11.1943 Stab/JG11 Messerschmitt Bf 109G-5 Wnr.26112 Lt Weiroster 26.11.1943 1./(F)22 Junkers Ju 88D-1 Wnr.430052 Ofw Prüfert 02.12.1943 2./KG6 Junkers Ju 188 Wnr.260199 Fw Schwarz2 04.12.1943 KG2 Dornier 217M-1 Wnr. 40727 Lt. Kiendl 21.12.1943 2./NJG3 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-4 Wnr.6283 Fw Rösner ************************************************** ****** What we know There was a ME-110E1 with the code S9+MP It did belong to ZG1 ZG1 was in Italy in 1943 Location of the "wreck" is Monte-corvino What we would like to know What realy happend to the plane Why is there a model diffrence between the scarse sources (S9+MP ME-110 E1) and the G model apearence on the photos Was ME-110E1 S9+MP Upgraded to G standard?? Who was the last pilot / Crew lol....this plane is bugging me and i will dedicate abit time doing the weekend to look into this. Somewhere there must be information about a ME-110 with the code S9+MP lmao.... Let the internet Indiana Jone`ses loose...dadadadaaaa dadadaaaaa All have a great weekend LTbear Last edited by Ltbear; 01-14-2011 at 12:21 PM.
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01-14-2011, 12:23 PM
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looks pretty clear that it was stripped for parts... see how the wing and tail were unbolted not torn off. Probably at a forward makeshift field. lack of parts and tired airframe, so was stripped of good parts to service other planes and left in the field?
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01-14-2011, 02:50 PM
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That is a Bf 110 G-2...
Ltbear,
No question. Go check the loss tables in my book, 'Sting of the Luftwaffe'. There, you will see all the RECORDED losses of aircraft forwarded to Luftwaffe HQ via two sources: 1. The Namentliche Verlustemeldungen, which reported the loss/wounding of crews, which also contained quite detailed aircraft information most of the time; and 2. The aircraft returns forwarded to the Lw Quartermaster for the purpose of acquiring replacement aircraft. As I put in my first post, apart from a Bf 110 C, which I believe was a C-1 acquired from III./ZG 26 on the Med front, all the loss/damage information for aircraft was for Bf 110 G-2 aircraft. The sideways folding Bordfunker's canopy in the photos confirm it as a G-2, not an 'E'. Unit codes on the fuselage of Bf 110s were re-used again and again in Luftwaffe Staffeln, so more than one Bf 110 would have carried the code S9+MP, not just one. Let me give you an example: Bf 110 D-0/B, S9+CK, shot down and belly-landed at Hawkhurst, Kent on 15th August 1940; Bf 110 E-1/N, S9+CK, shot down into the North Sea on 12th May 1941; Bf 110 E-1, S9+CK, damaged on combat mission, Propajak, Russian front, 12th August 1941; Me 210 A-1, S9+CK, crashed on training flight, Hörsching, near Linz, 12th December 1941; Bf 110 F-2, S9+CK, hit by Flak, 31st December 1942; Bf 110 G-2, S9+CK, hit by Flak and Russian fighter, east of Russkt-Brod, 10th May 1943. So simpy because the Bf 110 carries the code S9+MP, you cannot ascribe its variant/sub-variant to the only known recorded code in Luftwaffe returns. Remember, if II./ZG 1 was suddenly forced to retreat and leave behind many aircraft that were u/s on Montecorvino, the last thing on their minds was probably hanging around to fill in some paperwork about the minute details of those damaged aircraft. They would simply have requisitioned replacements once they had reached their new base. I hope this clarifies things to your satisfaction.
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01-14-2011, 04:12 PM
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I read and learn, and have no problem understanding what you are saying. Sometimes i need to read things with a bat bashing my head so i can understand lol....(not native english speaking) My problem with any plane who use that code is that i cant find information on any plane with the code S9+MP I have been reading the last 3 hours, in books on the net even used a great ammount of time on luftwaffe ahchives. You can find alot of information on a great deal of the planes used by ZG1, but the one or ones using the S9+MP code i simply cant find anything on For me it have moved from the specific aircraft over to a more broad seach on the code it self, instead of any specific plane. ( the hunt of the story of S9+MP lmao) If you have information on any plane using that number i would love to have it (sometimes you just need to know, even if its nothing you can realy use lol) LTbear
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#37
01-14-2011, 05:25 PM
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Ltbear,
Forget the code, look at the Bordfunker's rear canopy. It is the later, revised, sideways folding canopy. It was NOT used on Bf 110 Es.
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01-14-2011, 09:07 PM
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Ltbear,
Here are all the loss/damage details form II./ZG 1's time in the Med. I've included details of the losses before and after they went to the Med. What you will see is that there are many Bf 110s of the unit destroyed/damaged on Montecorvino, but the unit did reoprt up the line their fuselage codes. This list is compiled from, as stated previously, the Namentliche Verlustmeldungen of II./ZG 1, and the entries in the Luftwaffe Quartermaster's 6th Abteilung returns, now held on microfilm in the Imperial War Museum, London. Copy and paste the complete table into Microsoft Word, and then increase the font size to '7' and change the font to 'Univers' and you should get the table to flow correctly. Hope this helps. Date Name of crew and rank Staffel Status Fate Aircraft Damage Reason for Place Code & W. Nr. state Casualty09-03-43 4 Bf 110 G-2 50% Engine trouble. Dnjepropet- rowsk-south 5009 airfield. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-03-43 6 Bf 110 C-7 50% Damaged by enemy fire. 2891 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-03-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 75% Damaged by Flak. Charkow. Gruppe 6114 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-04-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 70% Damaged in bombing Gruppe attack. 7131 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-04-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 70% Damaged in bombing Gruppe attack. 4182 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-04-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 70% Damaged in bombing Gruppe attack 6173 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-04-43 Uffz. Franz Böck 6 P W Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Shot down into the Between Tunis Uffz. Henry Ahrens 6 Bf K Trop Mediterranean Sea. and Sicily. 3U+SR* 5122 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-04-43 Oblt. Alexander Gibsone 6 P M Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Did not return from Straits of Uffz. Otto Weissflog 6 Bf M Trop combat mission. Sicily. S9+TP 6189 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-04-43 II. Fi 156 C-3/Trop 30% Overturned on landing Taormina. Gruppe 8133 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01-05-43 Oblt. Kurt Eiffländer 4 P M Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Did not return from Cap Bon. Fw. Heinz Rumke 4 Bf M Trop combat with British S9+AC fighters. 6163 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01-05-43 Ogefr. Werner Hess 4 P M Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Did not return from Cap Bon. Uffz. Hubert Assmann 4 Bf M Trop combat with British S9+BC fighters. 6238 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01-05-43 Ofw. Georg Stengel 4 P M Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Did not return from Cap Bon. Uffz. Werner Hellwig 4 Bf M Trop combat with British S9+CM fighters. 6190 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01-05-43 Lt. Georg Meyer 6 P M Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Seen to crash into the sea Straits of Uffz. Erich Finze 6 Bf M Trop on combat mission. Sicily. S9+IP 6178 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 03-05-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 100% Ju 52 crashed into aircraft. Trapani Gruppe airfield. 6151 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-05-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 80% Tyre damage resulted in Trapani Gruppe damage to aircraft. airfield. 6183 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 09-05-43 Lt. Wolfgang Priebe 4 P W Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Crashed following combat 20 Kms. Fw. Friedrich Kleine- 4 Bf K Trop mission. south-south- Kleffmann S9+MM east of Reggio. 6237 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-05-43 Lt. Erich Holthuis 5 P M Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Crashed into the sea on 24 Kms. east Trop combat mission. of Soverato. S9+KN 6155 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01-06-43 II. Me 210 70% Tyre failure. Praitca di Gruppe Mare. 6188 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 25% Airframe damage. Ciampino-North Gruppe Trop airfield. 6212 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------06-07-42 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 45% Crash-landing. Montecorvino. Gruppe Trop 6232 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 80% Damaged by Flak. Montecorvino. Gruppe Trop 6234 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-07-43 Stfw. Paul Rapp 4 P K Bf 110 G-2 Hit by Flak and attacked 15 Kms. Fw. Gerhard Freyer 4 Bf S9+DM by 3 British fighters. South-east of 6191 Crash-landed. Mazzarino. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-07-43 Uffz. Franz Hillmann 4 P W Bf 110 G-2/Trop Gela. Uffz. Josef Jauernick 4 Bf W S9+EM 6153 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-07-43 Fw. Hermann Gerdes 5 P K Bf 110 G-2 Pilot killed on combat 10 Kms. east S9+BN mission. of Gela. 6172 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-07-43 Uffz. Richard Blind 5 Bf K Bf 110 G-2 Bordfunker killed on 15 Kms. east S9+KN combat mission. of Gela. 6301 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-07-43 Oblt. Wilhelm Dreher II. P Bf 110 G-2 100% Reason for loss not Gela. Uffz. Oskar Stellmacher Gruppe Bf known. 6181 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-07-43 Fw. Reinhold Miehlke 5 P K Bf 110 G-2/Trop Pilot killed following 10 Kms. Uffz. Horst Wiese 5 Bf W S9+GN direct hit from Flak south-west of 6152 on combat mission. Licodia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-07-43 II. Bf 110 C-1 40% Damaged in bombing Montecorvino. Gruppe attack. 0945 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino. Gruppe Trop attack. 6299 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 50% Belly-landing following Gruppe Trop combat mission. 6217 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Fi 156 C-3/ 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe Trop attack. 8134 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 108 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 1104 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 6328 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe Trop attack. 6194 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe Trop attack. 6184 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 6218 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 6231 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 6149 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 6329 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 25% Damaged in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 6250 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-07-43 Uffz. Karl Sünderhauff 4 Bf K Bf 110 G-2/ Bordfunker killed on Near Capri. Trop combat mission. S9+GM 6148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-07-43 Uffz. Erich Essig 5 P K Bf 110 G-2 Both crewmen killed 5 Kms. West of Uffz. Rudolf Beilner 5 Bf K S9+EN on combat mission. Montecorvino 6143 airfield. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-07-43 Fw. Bernhardt Grundt 5 P Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Collided with S9+EM 20 Kms. north Uffz. Kurt Geyer 5 Bf M Trop during combat with of Taormina. S9+CN Spitfires. 6229 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-07-43 Uffz. Franz Hillmann 4 P M Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Collided with S9+CN 20 Kms. north Uffz. Josef Jauernick 4 Bf M Trop during combat with of Taormina. S9+EM Spitfires. 6153 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 75% Damaged in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe Trop attack. 6161 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 60% Damaged in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe Trop attack. 6187 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 90% Damaged in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe attack. 6185 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-07-43 II. Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Destroyed in bombing Montecorvino Gruppe Trop S9+GM 6148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-07-43 Fw. Karl Hirschmann 4 P K Bf 110 G-2/ 100% Shot down in combat with North-east of Uffz. Günther-Harald 4 Bf K Trop fighters during attack Catania. S9+AM on shipping. 5632 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 02-08-43 Major Heinz Nacke Stab P W Bf 110 G-2 Crashed on non-combat flight. (Gruppenkommandeur) S9+KM Ofw. Hans-Joachim Kobel II W 6303 Uffz. Anton Maigler Gruppe W ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 02-08-43 II Bf 110 G-2 20% Damaged by obstruction on Memmingen Gruppe airfield. 6403 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------21-08-43 Uffz. Georg Planer 5 P K Bf 110 G-2 100% Crashed into the sea West of Brest. Uffz. Horst Hoffmann 5 Bf K S9+GN during combat with 6406 Liberator. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-08-43 II. Bf 110 G-2 10% Hit by own Flak. Atlantic coast. Gruppe 6366 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-08-43 II Bf 110 G-2 Belly-landed due to Brest-Süd Gruppe engine problem. airfield. 6332
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01-16-2011, 10:05 AM
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Ciao
Scusami se ti disturbo, volevo chiederti se è possibile avere copia del rapporto dei BF110 ritrovati a Montecorvino. Grazie Gennaro Sessa Hi Excuse me if I disturb you, I wanted to ask you if it is possible possession copy of the relationship of the BF110s found again to Montecorvino. Thanks Gennaro Sessa Salerno (Italy)
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01-16-2011, 10:06 AM
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Thanks Gennaro Sessa Salerno (Italy)
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