= SOW ( Bob ) vs other scenarios. << Poll >>

[JG53Frankyboy]

actually , as long Maddox will stay with the idea of releasing "scenarios" , all is welcome

i just have my doubts about any future Pacific carrier stuff , because of the Grumman "affair".

[tagTaken2]

Two of the options, BoB and Korea are already happening. North Africa/Med is quite possibly next (not sure what's up with Battle for Moscow- anyone have good information?).

SCW would be great, really enjoyed the Il-2 Campagne Espana. But the number of plane makes involved, in small quantities, makes this almost unviable to produce, especially for the number of people interested (no Mustang? No thanks!).

I'd like to see high-fidelity Flying Tigers (easy to do planes, recognition etc) and an expanded Pacific.
Even if just one battle at a time was modelled (Midway- ocean map not hard to make, Pearl Harbour) and sold, there'd be plenty of buyers, and new planes to add to the set.
Or- as above- go by timeframes, like East Front 1941, or Battle of Kursk.

(excuse repetition)

[rakinroll]

ı do not think that i will get bored.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Well I voted "North African and Middle East", but that doesn't mean I will get bored with BoB quickly.....the Med is just a campaign I would like to see in a sim.

[Blackdog_kt]

I won't get bored simply because of the new mechanics and systems we will have in SoW, regardless of theater.

Now, what i would want to see as follow-ups? I'm interested to see the Korean expansion. Spanish civil war will be cool too for the reasons mentioned.

As i'm from Greece, the mediterranean seems interesting to me as well. The air war during the original Italian invasion in 1940 was not that widespread (the Greek air force suffered a lot of trouble with maintenance, muddy airfields, etc, so they didn't fly as much as they would want to), there were a lot of insane stunts being pulled (e.g., a guy ran out of ammo shooting at an Italian bomber, so he went close and chewed up its elevators with his propeller, crash landed next to it and took the crew prisoners), but the most interesting part would be the planeset.

The Greeks mostly flew PZL 24 F/G models, various French designs (like the twin engined Potez 63) and a few Hs 123s. There were RAF squadrons flying Gladiators (some high scoring RAF aces made their mark in this theater of operations as well), there was also a swordfish squadron and maybe a some Hurricanes (not entirely sure about Hurris though, as the timeframe was similar to the Battle of Britain and most of the modern fighters were kept back home for defence). Finally, the Italian air force used CR 32, C 42 and all those interesting bombers.

I seriously doubt we'll see the initial battle in Greece and the Balkans make an appearance due to the one-sided nature of affairs (the axis forces had a huge advantage), maybe the map will only involve Crete, but the planesets sure are interesting with a mix of everything, from SCW era fighters and biplanes to cutting edge designs for the time, like 109s, often serving in opposing sides. The Yugoslavian air force for example had BF109s, imagine the confusion if flying online and you see Yugoslav 109s intercepting German Stukas, the Greeks had some Henschels and even some WWI Breguet 19 biplanes were around

I don't expect to see it but i don't really mind either to be honest since i mostly fly German aircraft. Just making sure the early war fans know about it, in case they are interested

However, my dream scenario would be a 1:1 scaled map that covers most of Europe, because it will be able to see use for every operation from 1940 until the end of the war. I know this is a far stretch for the combination of SoW's quality and our current PCs, but maybe in 3-5 years it will be possible to run it at acceptable frame rates. I'm just thinking about flying in a 24/7 dynamic online campaign, with night and day bomber raids, radar intercepts, blind navigation and bombing, nightfighters, day fighters under ground radar control, etc....from the 1942 channel front to the end of the strategic bomber campaign and from raiding targets in Norway with Mosquitos to hunting shipping in the Bay of Biscay with Ju88s. Maybe maps could be "joined" online so that when one reaches the boundary of the map, a bit of hard disk loading later you spawn in the next one, this way you could start from the mediterranean map and fly bombing sorties against targets in Austria, souther Germany or even recreate the Ploesti raids.

I know, my imagination is running wild here, but it's not like i'm demanding anything...just tossing ideas around in case something sticks

[EV401_Wolf]

The Moscow war is ready.... No vote for it

[Avimimus]

This is interesting - back in the UBI days the Med won hands down (of course we already had the East).

The list leaves out night bombing (very important to a lot of Commonwealth nations).

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by EV401_Wolf

The Moscow war is ready.... No vote for it

that's East/North front

[ElAurens]

There are ways to get the Asia/Pacific/CBI theaters in that will not be affected by previous "imperial entanglements".

The air war in China went for 3 years before any American pilots arrived with P40s. In fact there were Russian "volunteer" squadrons flying I-15s and I-16s there, as well as bomber units. The Chinese Air Force had an amazing array of aircraft, sourced from all over the world. Even the Japanese had aircraft not of their own manufacture there. They had a squadron of Fiat BR 20 bombers based in China.

Then after the AVG arrived and were later absorbed by the 14th. Air Force there were still no Grumman aircraft involved. Then add in the Commenwealth air forces flying in Southeast Asia and you have a wonderful mix of aircraft, maps, and scenarios that theoretically could span from 1937 to 1945.

Also remember that the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force was decimated, not by blue painted aircraft flying off carriers, but by Commonwealth and USAAF pilots, flying out of that hell hole known as New Guinea.

And for further, more obscure in the West, but none the less interesting and never properly done in a sim, we could have the fall of the Netherlands East Indies. The Dutch in Java and Sumatra had another interesting collection of aircraft types, lots of varied terrain and lots of ocean to cover, and were aided by some USAAF B-17s and P-40s.

If you think about it there a lots of ways to get us into the Pacific war and not run afoul of previous problems.

And, the Med is still a very good choice as well.

As long as we stay away from the uber plane bomber campaign over Germany for as long as possible, I'll be a happy BlitzPig.

[JG53Frankyboy]

i know. you can count me in for any NewGuinea stuff 42/43 (P-38, P-40, Ki-43,Ki-61, A6M and a lot of more engined bombers/attackers ) or some Burma action - P-36 vs Ki-43

i just said that PTO carrier operations are doubtfull..............

but anyway, IMOH it will take very long till "we" will see any far eastern stuff rom the official side i guess.........and im also worried that even before that there will ba a official "Big Week 1944" (the Pony and Würger drivers are a loud crowd )........................


but, this all is pure brainstorming and personal wishes.
I geuss 1C/Maddox has already a "plan" what will come, at least from the official side !
for the other stuff, let them bring out the 3.party tools. You will be able to "klick them away" anyhow

the MOST important point for me is, to repeat my self , that 1C will keep the scenario based projects.

one of the biggest fun i had the last 6-7 years with IL2 was to build scenario based campaigns for an COOP online war. The research , the missionbuilding even the briefings ( in english as a non native englishspeaker.................). It took a lot of my time with the game , and in enjoed it. The favorite of mine were the PTO campaigns btw , but unfortunatly it was the last liked by the pilots that took part in the war