New Rig for SOW:BofB What should i get

[HFC_Dolphin]

OMG, this is mad people's forum

First of all: any high end cpu/gpu of today (like the one originally posted) will perfectly run original release of BoB. Be sure.

Second: if the reason of getting a new pc is BoB, why not buying it as soon as it is released and tenths or hundreds of reviews will be available? You save money and you get best value for them.

Third: there are kids dying of starvation. Don't spend thousands of dollars for an extra frame in a game. Even if you donate to UNICEF, it's STILL a wrong luxury to aim for 123 FPS instead of poor 120 FPS...

[DoolittleRaider]

Originally Posted by HFC_Dolphin

OMG, this is mad people's forum
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Third: there are kids dying of starvation. Don't spend thousands of dollars for an extra frame in a game. Even if you donate to UNICEF, it's STILL a wrong luxury to aim for 123 FPS instead of poor 120 FPS...

Possibly there is a language problem...but nevertheless I have to point out that it's my money...If I want to light a cigar with a Hundred dollar bill, it's my choice.....
... I'll judge what "luxury" is 'right' for me, as will others judge for themselves.
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Signed..."Cranky Old Man"

P.S. I'll probably only leave this post up for a day or so, then delete.


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[mazex]

Originally Posted by DoolittleRaider

Possibly there is a language problem...but nevertheless I have to point out that it's my money...If I want to light a cigar with a Hundred dollar bill, it's my choice...My Money. MY money. Keyword is "MY" not "yours".

It is totally irrelevant if "kids are dying of starvation". That may sound harsh...but, MY contributions to charities are MY Business (and very substantial, though that is also irrelevant). I'll judge what "luxury" is 'right' for me, as will others judge for themselves. It's not your place to judge someone else's use of THEIR money as "Wrong".

If YOU want to sing "We are the World" and wave lighted candles while you sway slowly left and right, I suggest you do it someplace else. imho

Did you hit a sensitive nerve, you betcha! Lots of talk these days in the US about redistribution of wealth...it gets old.

Signed..."Cranky Old Man"

P.S. I'll probably only leave this post up for a day or so, then delete. I don't want the thread to go too far off track for too long.

Wow! This is like when I humbly try to tell my wife that some exercise could be both fun and good for the health

[Sven]

Originally Posted by mazex

Wow! This is like when I humbly try to tell my wife that some exercise could be both fun and good for the health

+ 1000 too recognisable

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by DoolittleRaider

Possibly there is a language problem...but nevertheless I have to point out that it's my money...If I want to light a cigar with a Hundred dollar bill, it's my choice...My Money. MY money. Keyword is "MY" not "yours".

It is totally irrelevant if "kids are dying of starvation". That may sound harsh...but, MY contributions to charities are MY Business (and very substantial, though that is also irrelevant). I'll judge what "luxury" is 'right' for me, as will others judge for themselves. It's not your place to judge someone else's use of THEIR money as "Wrong".

If YOU want to sing "We are the World" and wave lighted candles while you sway slowly left and right, I suggest you do it someplace else. imho

Did you hit a sensitive nerve, you betcha! Lots of talk these days in the US about redistribution of wealth...it gets old.

Signed..."Cranky Old Man"

P.S. I'll probably only leave this post up for a day or so, then delete. I don't want the thread to go too far off track for too long.

"But it's for the children...."

LOVED YOUR POST! lol. But you forgot "Get off my lawn" .

A George Carlin routine also comes to mind but is not fit for posting here.

Rome is burning, grab a marshmallow.

Splitter

[HFC_Dolphin]

You are right and forgive my impulse please

[WTE_Galway]

There is another reason to wait. Once Sandy Bridge is released in 6 or 8 weeks the prices of the current i3/i5 motherboards and processors will suddenly drop substantially.

Sandy bridge is likely to be officially released at CES Las Vegas in early January:

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...te-announced/1

Intel is rumoured to be launching Sandy Bridge at CES in Las Vegas according to motherboard manufacturers we've spoken to. Intel has booked a press conference for the CES event and it is heavily speculated that this will mark the official launch.

[lbuchele]

If all the rumors are right,considering that the CPU is the key for good performance in SOW and Intel claiming that Sandy Bridge is the biggest performance jump in ALL it's history...
Well I'll wait for SB for sure.
GPU will be the GTX 580 or ATI 6990 if it's drivers are OK for SOW (this card will be a REAL monster,be sure)

[WTE_Galway]

Maybe something like this overclocked SB i7-2700K (K means unlocked) will run SOW ok

[klem]

Originally Posted by DoolittleRaider

[As an aside, to shed some light on my personal perspective, I'm on the far side of 67...]

So, I'm a mere whippersnapper at 63...

......I wonder why Oleg/1C can't now provide some very specific information on minimum necessary and maximum usable/desirable specs. Surely by this point they know how their engine will, or will not, use multiple Core technology. Will dual core be a minimum for effective BOB performance, even if not 'required' ? Will quad-core be the 'main' approach??? Will Six-core, up to 12 thread be a total waste in Oleg's opinion? Will RAM of 6GB, let's say, be the max that Oleg can see being usable for BOB on release?
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I can see why early in development, or even a couple of years ago, they would have been reluctant to commit to any 'recommended' specs....but now...Why not?
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I couldn't agree more. Oleg must have some idea of what will be needed and if he doesn't he's leaving things a bit late for a near future release. A guide should be possible for decent framerate expectations and settings, even if it's only what he has been developing on, and an equipment estimate for high or max settings at reasonable framerates should be possible and helpful to people like me with a budget limit which sets boundaries anyway (I accept that I may not be able to afford a max settings rig).

My situation is one of a limited budget burning a hole in my pocket which will get eaten by less important domestic issues (IMHO ) if I don't use it. Someone mentioned starving children. I have two in their mid-late twenties and they are still starving (apparently)

I could wait for Sandy Bridge but I don't doubt I couldn't afford it and I don't believe that it will knock the i7 970+ CPUs down to the current 950 price level I can afford. They will stay high for some time. Also the GPU landscape is fairly well established for the near future with ATI 5970s, and probably 6970s, and NVidia 580s being outside my budget. So I may as well go now. I have been offered an i7 950, 6Gb, SSD, 4.2GHz overclock bundle by Scan (overclock is under guarantee) which should futureproof me for a while. I am only now trying to decide on the GPU which will probably be a 5870 if SoW hasn't been written for Tesselation etc. Why buy something I don't need? I run a Flight simming rig (IL-2, SoW, FSX). And I don't need the 6000s 3D. My current choice is between cheaper but slower 6870 (optimised for Tesselation) or more costly but faster 5870.

Come on Oleg - give us a clue!

BTW, there is another thread running about system specs
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=16401