finally got the B17!!

[Gilly]

Originally Posted by f1rebrand

The Hurri's always done the job for me but maybe I'm making hard work of it. [Pondering 109's]

If hard works ripping it up bigtime then yeah maybe you are!!! As I've said, pilot makes a big difference!!

[nuklhed808]

Originally Posted by McQ59

Grats siteseeker! That B-17 has got a real stingy azz...
Whatch out for the G-6's and u'r neck!

...and the K-4, it'll rip a B-17 to shreds, or any other bomber for that matter!

[The_Goalie_94]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

B17's weren't hard to shoot down in real life.

I dont think so, maybe, and i will have to bet, that the rear and ball turret gunner eithr ran out of ammo or in a worst case sonario shot dead by incoming fire. And cant help that most of the bombers that were in that video were not firing back and were completly alone.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by nuklhed808

...and the K-4, it'll rip a B-17 to shreds, or any other bomber for that matter!

Nothing though beats the Me262 for Downing B-17s. Four 30mm cannons concentrated in the nose, can knock off B-17 wings from miles away out of range of the turrets. In a 109G6 and K youve got to get the B-17 into the convergence of the gondola wing cannons for full hittingpower, not so the Me262.

[incaliber45]

how in the hell do u unlock the b-17 and the p-47 please let me know im dying to flythem since there is only 2 american planes in the whole game

[siteseeker]

Originally Posted by incaliber45

how in the hell do u unlock the b-17 and the p-47 please let me know im dying to flythem since there is only 2 american planes in the whole game

win 50 online strike missions in any bomber to get the B-17... the P-47 is downloadable content and cost $10 US...

best to use the Arado for the 50 wins IMHO

[f1rebrand]

30 wins on the PS3 (post patch)

[siteseeker]

Originally Posted by f1rebrand

30 wins on the PS3 (post patch)

really?!!??! seems like i had to win 100 to get it

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by The_Goalie_94

I dont think so, maybe, and i will have to bet, that the rear and ball turret gunner eithr ran out of ammo or in a worst case sonario shot dead by incoming fire. And cant help that most of the bombers that were in that video were not firing back and were completly alone.

In the guncam video, they were, but the other one was USAAF or War Dept video and they were dropping out of formation all over the place, and only hit one fighter.

they only carried a few hundred rounds and ran out of ammo fast. Gunners getting killed was also common, they don't get killed in BOP. The bop gunners also don't have to yell to each other what direction you're at and high or low and deal with the confusion of having the formation attacked by hundreds of fighters.

Real b-17's had to fly for hours over enemy territory and endure multiple sorties of attacks by the same fighters. The Germans figured out early on that it took just a few rounds to down a b17 if you hit it in the front quarter, and they had plenty of time to fly ahead of them and then dive on them. They show them doing that in the American video

[f1rebrand]

Ah yes Betty Grable. Mind if I call you Betty?

I'd love to hear more. What was your role?