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10-26-2009, 01:52 PM
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I picked up a G940 and it is amazing! I have a CH fighterstick & throttle (sold the pedals) now collecting dust in my closet.
There is simply no comparison, the G940 blows the Ch gear out of the water. The G940 makes the CH gear feel like childrens toys really. I couldn't live without the G940 now just like I can't live without my triple screens http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...2220097518.jpg New pic After I fixed the border alignment http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...2320097528.jpg Here is my write up on amazon 3 of 5 people found the following review helpful: 5.0 out of 5 stars This HOTAS setup is amazing!, October 9, 2009 By Baron Hornswaggle Von Goldenwulf - See all my reviews I have owned a CH Fighterstick, Throttle, and Pedals for one year and I am now going to throw them out if I cannot sell them, because after using the G940 for a week I WILL NEVER GO BACK to CH! The G940 stick is 10 times better than the CH fighterstick and the forcefeed back alone is worth the price of admission. I play IL2-1946 and Over Flanders Field and the force feedback is top notch! People boast that the CHs are the most accurate sticks you can buy, well this is no longer true. The G940 throttle is so much better than the CH Throttle as well. It has a more natural curve of motion, the buttons and dials are better layed out and it is way more comfortable to use. The G940 pedals are also ten times better than the ch pedals. The g940s are about an inch wider and use a more natural & realistic rocker range of motion than the CHs gimped forced linear range of motion. In short, the CH Products feel like toys compared to the G940. If you like simulators these are a must buy! Does anybody want to buy a used CH HOTAS setup that is in excellent condition? As I said, these are the best of the best (unless you spend $20,000 on a professional military grade HOTAS setup) and a must buy if you enjoy playing flight sims. These are to the flying games what the G25 is to the racing games... Last edited by l88bastard; 10-26-2009 at 01:55 PM. 
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#32
10-26-2009, 02:27 PM
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 .If it's as good as you say, I'll probably be buying it as soon as my Force3DPro stop working (which might not be too far from now, as it's already showing some problems... probably too much use, but it's a relatively new joystick with less than a year. Of course, you can't expect much from cheap joysticks, and this one, for it's price, is a good option) and I gather some money to do the upgrade. There's anyone that converted from CH to G940 and felt like this? I just need one more opinion...
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#33
10-26-2009, 04:42 PM
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Excellent Hotas.
Needs some minor mods but best stock system out there period. Tried them all - this is the best Pros Extremely High Quality Materials and Finish Very adjustable Much more precise than my MSFFB II Rudder pedals are best in class bar non. Cons As stated elsewhere, detents on rotaries would be ideal will have to build some kind of sheild or cover for throttle buttons, you can accidentally brush them at 100% power (not a problem for pits) Centering is not good at default levels, needs to be bumped up in software... but this is not really a con. Forget the rest ...... just buy the best. G940 Best in Class.
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#34
10-26-2009, 06:27 PM
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I can appreciate all the enthusiasm, and all that bit about trashing the CHproducts,etc. CHprod are already tested by thousands of IL2 users for over 10 years.
I think it would be wise to wait on Logitech anything. All of Logitech products look good, and are very well designed for consumer appeal. The quality (IMO) extends just that far. I've been lured in many times by that quality appearance. Recently purchased wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse.. it really looks like a professional product...doesn't friggin' work. Had it about 2 weeks too long to return to retailer. Now I've gotta go through all the Logitech RMA process, if I want to get it fixed. Here are the numbers on back of the keyboard to corroborate what I'm saying. M/N:Y-RCP140 P/N:820-000396 (137340-001 B) PID:MC831CZ C/N:02015 It would be wise for anyone that has to work for their money to wait abit on this one. I've had issues with every Logitech product I've ever owned, including the G11 gamer keyboard. It was so stoked it was not working within a week. I took that puppy back to BestBuy and got my money back. I was just glad it was a bombed out within the return merchandise period. Seriously, if Thrustmaster came out with a new Hotas I might consider it. Last edited by nearmiss; 10-26-2009 at 08:26 PM.
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10-26-2009, 07:31 PM
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I'll give the G940 a pass till I see the same glowing reports a year from now.
My apprehensions about Logitech quality are well founded. I hope they have turned the corner on the quality issue, but only time and testing will tell, and I won't pay to beta test hardware. I wish those that have them well.
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10-26-2009, 07:35 PM
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I am afraid that i was too eager
 i've bought the g940 at 28.09.09 and already it seems that the potis in the rudder pedals are giving jumping output. When i use right rudder in combination with brakes the pedals give me max. 10% when there should be 100%. The fault is also visible in the game controller test window. I have the actual software 5.08 64 bit and i'm using win7 64 bit. Lets see what Logitech says to that. btw, i've used my saitek pedals for over a year with no probs.
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#37
10-27-2009, 10:41 PM
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 The only thing the G940 has to prove to me now is the test of time. My Logitec G25 wheel, shifter and pedals are still good as new and Ive had them for a year, so we will see how the G940 holds up. Currently it is getting heavy daily use with IL2 and OFF. I am not here to bash the CH products, but having had the top of the line CH stuff I can't defend them either. I just found the CH fighterstick to be too light and dainty in my hands (and after only a year I was getting POT issues with it), the CH throttle with its flat push stick motion just sucks and I absolutely hated the CH pedals....HATED THEM! I am not trying to win other people over to the logitec, but I could not imagine sitting on the fence waiting, knowing that the experience I am having with these logitecs is out and available now! Basically, after two weeks of heavy usage, I could not sim without them. PERIOD! My 2 cents for what its worth, take it our leave it you poor G940 less bastards... oh and I work for my money too...granted I load up on grog, dance on tables and shove my wank in female faces while I slowly gyrate to prince, van halen and def leppard toons, but none the less it is work and those dollars slowly add up...over the course of the night lol
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#38
11-02-2009, 10:59 AM
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I'm glad people are happy with the G940.
Since 2002 I've been using an MS FFB2 and still very happy with it. But as usual with heavy used stuff, some problems arose in the years... buttons not eager to work etc. Recently I received a Saitek wheel & pedals and a broken MS FFB2. So out of two sticks I built a very good one (is as good as new!) and used the internal electronics, switches and pots of the other to expand my throttle-setup. This really will become a HOTAS. I'v already built my own pedals out of wood, but that one had a gameport interface. Now I'm going to use the steering wheel internals... very surprised to see the Saitek uses optics, like old mice! Further I'm going to use more steering wheels for trimming, they are much more precise. Just remove the return-to-center spring and all is ready to go! I will be using the MS FFB2 for a LONG time. Parts are cheap/cost next to nothing and I can repair them myself. That's a big plus!
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#39
11-04-2009, 08:25 AM
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Hmmm
A few months ago I need to replace my ailing 3 month old Logitech extreme . . . the stick in neutral would input left aileron and pull down (when using IL-2 config, the green / red squares) and the twist was pulling max twist right or left everytime the stick was touched. Got a replacement but it took nearly a month to get it . . . but didn't want to replace it every 3 mo's or so.
I could have waited a month and gotten the G940 . . . but the only review was Jay Hall's and it wasn't enough to grab me. I went with full CH set up . . . I needed a HOTAS and the G940 was too new. I made it a personal policy to not get 1st gen stuff (since this was Logitech's 1st gen HOTAS). A) my friend does UAV programming for the electronics, and all the guys there use the mil grade CH stuff and got a SPAWAR thumbs up. B) many posts here and in the UBIZOO said CH was built for durability and reliability, plus you could get couger programming complicated or simply just plug and play (configure using windows control panel game controllers) B2) I noticed Saitek, Logitech, Thrustmaster all had "horror" posts on quality, customer service run arounds etc . . . but CH didn't . . . C) the guys in CH hanger were quick to get back to you . . . D) A real life friend's psycho' ex powerlifting girlfriend grabbed and threw his 4 year old CH gear, ripping the USB's out (but they still worked on both PC and CH) and hurled it across the street in a badly aimed throw at my car while I was hot evac' him (away from her). I came back around he got it. They are scratched but worked fine despite the 5+ meter rise and fall. So far with my CH HOTAS it rocks. There are a few caveats with CH, it is light and offers no resistance, but I got used to it very fast. CH I can use on full 100% sensitivity in il2 joy control, other joysticks wobble or do something nutty with 100%. The CH pedals were designed for women in mind, I would appreciate one that allowed more foot spread . . . I can manage (spread my knees apart and set it at a right distance from my chair . . . ) but still hope the newers one have more feet spacing . . . Hopefully Logitech did fix the durability issue ... and the G940 shows this . . . Also Saitek has a HOTAS with a stick that doesn't move but feels the force of your hand when you push and detects that. Last edited by hiro; 11-04-2009 at 08:36 AM.
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11-04-2009, 05:20 PM
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I love this thread.
Its about Logitech G940.... but all I see is CH fanbois butthurt or others crying cause their gear isn't on top anymore. Is the G940 the coming of the Messiah ? No Is the G940 the best stock H.O.T.A.S you can buy for the money? YES So many people who don't own it or haven't tried it posting ........ like the noobs who have never flown a real plane, but cry about flight models or stick force pressures at 8g ....... you have to have been there to have a clue ...... same with the G940 .... if you haven't owned it - you don't know what your talking about. I own it - its VERY good - not perfect - Best solution currently available for Force Feedback devotees. Built better than CH. How do I know **** cause I have owned and used both. .
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