4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[ben_wh]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Currently the worst models in the sim are indeed the Hawk 87s and, interestingly enough, the IL2, with the Mig 3 a very close third.

Not sure whether they are in the right order but good nominations ...

1) Do hope to see the new P-40 3D models making it to 4.13

2) There is a mod (by Aviaskins team) which gave the MiG-3 a new look ...



3) Curiously, it is the namesake of the sim - the mighty IL-2 - that has not received much cosmetic upgrade, stock or mod.

[KG26_Alpha]

Also its missing some skis too

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Currently the worst models in the sim are indeed the Hawk 87s and, interestingly enough, the IL2, with the Mig 3 a very close third.

Just about all the models from the original IL2 game are showing their age. Not only are the models blocky and in some cases inaccurate, in most cases the DM are wrong as well (e.g., engines that are very likely to stop instantly if they get hit, very high chance of getting multiple control surface disabled results, poorly modeled armor plate and armor glass), and butt-ugly damage textures (notably the Bf-109 heavy damage textures which literally make the plane look like moldy Swiss cheese, although the IL2 and MiG3 damage textures aren't far behind).

Also, while I respect DT's reasons for not making changes (requirement that IL2 run on 15 year old hardware), just about all the planes in the game could benefit from a few extra polygons around the engine and wheels. Mods to improve cowling and wheel appearance really make old models such as the Ju-52 look better.

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

You don't remember the He 111 from V1.0 do you?

Now that was an awful model.

Currently the worst models in the sim are indeed the Hawk 87s and, interestingly enough, the IL2, with the Mig 3 a very close third.

good old times... Original He-111 wasnt much better than the one in European Air War. (Microprose)
And yes, the Mig3, how could I forget that! Its indeed a terrible model.

[ben_wh]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

... and butt-ugly damage textures (notably the Bf-109 heavy damage textures which literally make the plane look like moldy Swiss cheese ...).

Pursuivant

Until DT works on the issue, there is a solution that may help (at least partly) address this if you use mod - from vpmedia who did a lot of fantastic skins for IL-2.



Link: http://www.mission4today.com/index.p...etails&id=1876

Cheers,

[Notorious M.i.G.]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Now that was an awful model.

Currently the worst models in the sim are indeed the Hawk 87s and, interestingly enough, the IL2, with the Mig 3 a very close third.

I don't know, I'd put the MiG-3 as 1st, the P-40 actually has some semblance of curves somewhere

MiG-3 and IL-2 definitely do need a revamp, however. Looking at the IL-2 and IL-10 side by side is painful, and the MiG looks like it's made of Lego.

[yak9utpro]

I don't if thats correct but mig3 model lools like it was included in il-2 sturmovik 1.0 i don't know i began with 4.7 and one of my first impresions was the mig3 realy poor model.I hope for a new one in 4.13.1

[julien673]

Its is the most important think to revamp aircraft .... ??? IL2 isn t going to look like COD .. but we can work whit the gameplay ... don t you think ?!

[Notorious M.i.G.]

Originally Posted by julien673

Its is the most important think to revamp aircraft .... ??? IL2 isn t going to look like COD .. but we can work whit the gameplay ... don t you think ?!

Of course revamping aircraft isn't a #1 priority, but there are some that have aged horribly and are looking extremely out of place next to planes that have been added more recently (see IL-2 vs IL-10). It would be nice to see some of these planes brought up to par with current appearances.

I'm not screaming that 1946 needs to look as pretty as CloD or War Thunder, and I never expect it to be, but a bit of consistency would be nice. This doesn't have to completely displace TD's efforts in improving the game itself, either - bear in mind a lot of modeling has been done by 3rd parties iirc, point in case Macwan's P-40 revamp.

[christopher0936]

Needs a Lancaster Bomber
an English Channel Map would be good two but it's less important