IL2 and Sound Modding

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

1) What? Apart from LOMAC eh? Or what about the people desperately trying to find out where to purchase copies of the original EECH once they have seen how much better the modded EECH was than the newly released EECH2. What about Falcon 4? The newest version Falcon 4 Allied Force is based upon the hacked/modded Superpak version - and has been further extensively modded with the "Red Falcon" Mod. What about all the CFS3 nay-sayers who have been purcchasing copies so they can try out the Over Flanders Fields and Mediterranean Air Wars Mods? Or taking it one step further what about the popularity of THe Wings over Europe/Wings over Vietnam etc - all completely moddable?
I guess some "hacked" sims do sell after all...

2) Oleg stated categorically there would be no further resources devoted to 4.09 - thats why the code encryption is not being re-worked, no programming resouces whatsoever have been diverted from BOB-SOW

3) Oleg has stated categorically that he would not licence IL2 for development by third parties

1. Take a look at HL and tell me how many people you see flying Falcon 4 AF. Yeah, you and one other person. lol EECH2, how many are online with that? IL2 had/has the largest online flight sim community. I'm not sure how that will go now.

2. Oleg did state that there wouldn't be any resources devoted to 4.09. That doesn't mean, however, that he changed his mind on the subject due to the chaos going on now.

3. Oleg stated that third party development would be a possibility. He never said it would never happen. That may have changed now though.

At any rate, you or anyone else can't really dispute anything Ivan puts out on the forums. He's a well known, respectable person that is in the know. The fact that Oleg took leads off SOW to work on 4.09 speaks volumes of what he thinks about all of this. Now, I'm beginning to second guess a lot of my own opinions.

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Thrud

who want's to buy a sim that they can now fly, fight, and bomb with the heavies which they couldn't before? - raise your hands!


i love PBY's, the only way i can fly one is if someone releases it as an addon. when that happens, i buy FSX (for the game engine) and then i get the PBY.

i see this example applying here. Many that want to fly the heavies will now have an excuse to go out and buy IL46 so they can fly them with thier buddies.

The one problem I see with flying the AI aircraft is that the FM was made for just that, AI to fly. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd really like to know if there is a difference. I believe there is, however subtle it may be.

[crazyivan1970]

Allright. I`ll clarify...

Maybe where you live it is bragain Uther. Here it is still 19.99, not a big money... but still.

Oleg said, yes, he will not devote any more resources on 4.09 which is correct... but he meant code protection (encription), not the server side protection. Gotta read what he said carefully

There is nowhere on this board or any other board Oleg stated that outsourcing IL-2 to 3rd party is out of the question. What he said was... they don`t have time to create additional features for 3rd party or train them, which will make modding of IL-2 easier. Currently they are not looking for 3rd party from what i know. In the future - maybe, he never said never.


Look, you can defend hackers all you want guys, they are bunch of nice guys, highly motivated and willing to make everyone here happy... but mark my words, it`s a matter of months before many of you will ask yourself a question... WTF was i thinking. And since it`s pure determination now to have all those so called goodies, i bet if 4.09 is released, quiet a few people will get on breaking what was included in there ASAP... and probably succeed. I promise not to participate in such discussions again. Have it your way..

[csThor]

The hackers could turn out a truly realistic all-of-Europe Map and who-knows-what-else and I still wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten-foot-force-pike. All that screenshot posting isn't going to change that because I disapprove of mods/hacks in general and don't care who did them or what his intentions were.
In my opinion - unless, of course, Maddox Games does introduce something new to the server-side checks - there has to be some kind of "Iron Wall" between the factions - hackers on their side, "purists" on theirs. You can't combine these two factions as each believes in totally different things.

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

.... but mark my words, it`s a matter of months before many of you will ask yourself a question... WTF was i thinking. And since it`s pure determination now to have all those so called goodies, i bet if 4.09 is released, quiet a few people will get on breaking what was included in there ASAP... and probably succeed. I promise not to participate in such discussions again. Have it your way! So let it be written,so let it be done.."

[GOZR]

Thor define "purists" ...

thx

[fly_zo]

.... any documented cheating online jet ?

[csThor]

Originally Posted by GOZR

Thor define "purists" ...

thx

Purist = user of an unhacked "Il-2 : 1946" patched to 4.08m (or, in the future 4.09m).

[Viking]

It’s nice!
I installed the .92 version and everything is ok so far, only the text in maps and start-up screen are Russian now. Can this be fixed in next version please!

And as I stated previously I am a simmer not a gamer so I do all flying off-line.

[GOZR]

RGR just wanted to be sure purist as untouch files which is different than correct or as well incorrect or anything else. Purist is not equal to better or closer to reality or worse just the original files..

Ok good to know

Anyway a check version system for purist server or a modded version would be very good.. Just a matter of locking with the host