BF109 - Can't we just have the gunsight in the middle?

[335th_GRAthos]

You only need to have the "head movement restriction" while in gunsight mode REMOVED
It makes the gunsight view just like in the original IL2FB.

Rememeber please, if you are interested in this thing happening, to post your request ("remove head movement restriction while in gunsight mode") in the "bucket list"
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23405

~S~

[Sokol1]

Non TrackIR users, NewView center Bf109 gunsight without using "loosing straps".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tBcu_3Hn9IA

Sokol1

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Sokol1

Non TrackIR users, NewView center Bf109 gunsight without using "loosing straps".

Sokol1

Thanks for the video Sokol, wow!!!!!

Hmm, is there a manual in English? I foud the manual of version v33 but it is in Russian (looks Greek to me... )

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[Sokol1]

AFAIK - No english manual - NewView has always been overlooked in Western forums. For non TrackIR users NewView is very usefull to improve IL-2 Pan View, but do more things, like a key/button mapper.

Notice that NewView work together with head track devices too, like TrackIr, Freetrack, Cam2Pan,URgear (?). Look at "Helmet" tab.

To CloD you need NewView version 37X - find in link below.

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=67864
This thread in Sukhoi forum is about use in CloD (BoB for then), and have some samples of how configure key to center gunsight in 109.

Use some online translator and PM Hruks (the developer), they answer in english.

The best I understand (with Google ):

After initial NewView config (language, CloD location...), set a UView (User view) to 109 gunsight:

1. Open NewVew and then minimize
2. Run CloD (BoB), go Single Mission, run mission Cross country in Bf-109, that start in cockpit at Springfield.
3. Leave sights by default. Press a key, which is responsible for German sight (I sample NunPad 0)
4. Hit Windows key and go to desktop.
5. Go to NewView Advance Settings > UView coordinates tab, check 6DOF box,
highlights UView #1 (that is key for 109 sight, and control this Uview No1, in sample is used NumPad 0) and click in 6DOF Setup.
6. UView 6DOF Setup windows open: look for section "Translation (Camera Position)" X. .., Y. .., Z. ..
Check box for all these axes, and box for Instantly and Freeze.
In drop menu in front axis select "One touch".

In the box with Up/Down keys put these values:
X = "-700"
Y = "-1600"
Z= "20"

Close "UView 6DOF Setup" window
Click in "Apply"

And now press the number 7 (not NumPad!).
This key is used in this sample to the function "Read settings from INI file (for tuning settings)". See in Assignments tab > Other.

By pressing this key (7 or some that you assign) you upload to New View the changes made in CloD profile (.INI).

Go back to CLod.
Hit "NumPad 0" and see gunsight cross centering in screen.

For different german planes you need different values for X, Y, Z - so create a UView #2, #3...

Notice that you can configure up to 30 UViews (user views), so you can configure one key to instantly look at tachometer, another to prop pitch clock, another for temp... etc.

FYI - I dont test this UView feature, if dont work, dont blame me.

Sokol1

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Sokol1

Notice that NewView work together with head track devices too, like TrackIr...

THANK YOU!!!!
You answered the question I did not dare to ask (actually I had deducted from v.33 that it does not)

Originally Posted by Sokol1

FYI - I dont test this UView feature, if dont work, dont blame me.

Too late


Honestly, thanks a million,

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[Ataros]

I use TrackIR without NewView and do not use Gunsight View at all, just centre the TrackIR accordingly to have Revi in front of me. I assume you can do the same with FreeTrack if you do not want to learn using NewView.

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Ataros

I use TrackIR without NewView and do not use Gunsight View at all, just centre the TrackIR accordingly to have Revi in front of me. I assume you can do the same with FreeTrack if you do not want to learn using NewView.

You already mentioned it some time ago, thanks for the comments Ataros, let me check some things next time I fire-up my game PC and I will come back to you.
You see, I tried that last time and it does not work for me:
With TRACK IR on, I cannot move the screen.
I have to disable TRACKIR to move with the mouse and center the screen around the gunsight.
As soon as I re-enable TRACKIR, it jumps to the normal centered mode
I must be missing something stupidly obvious...

(I do not have 6DOF, if that is the prohibiting reason, I do not know. Well I do have the hardware but it is somewhere among dozens of cartos in a warehouse and we have 43 degrees C outside so, not highly motivating to go search for it...)

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[Ataros]

I use 6dof because left-to-right movement is assigned to x axis I believe which you do not have in 3dof. Without 6dof NewView is the solution I think.

With 6dof you lean left, press TIR center button, get back to vertical posture and this does the trick. The response is not 100% symmetrical in this case but it is hardly noticeable when you adjust response curves to your preference.

Try Freetrack if you have time it should support 6dof I think.

[RE77ACTION]

Please leave the gun sight where it is now! I like to have as much of the handicaps a real pilot was faced with. With trackIR I just like to train my abs and have fun the same time. Makes it all a little less passive and thus more realistic.

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by RE77ACTION

Please leave the gun sight where it is now! I like to have as much of the handicaps a real pilot was faced with. With trackIR I just like to train my abs and have fun the same time. Makes it all a little less passive and thus more realistic.