Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011 - Page 32

bongodriver · #**311** 12-28-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by addman

It's quite simple really, it's a stand-alone expansion which you may:

A: Merge with CloD if you have it and enjoy the content of that game together with BoM
or
B: Play it as a separate game without CloD content

If I have understood it properly.

Ok so if it's just like Pacific fighters in that regards....why do people think it's a crime to pay for it?

ACE-OF-ACES · #**312** 12-28-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by addman

It's quite simple really, it's a stand-alone expansion which you may:

A: Merge with CloD if you have it and enjoy the content of that game together with BoM
or
B: Play it as a separate game without CloD content

If I have understood it properly.

What did Luither say that gave you the impression that MB would 'merge' with CoD? Where you would need to have a copy of CoD for MB to 'merge' with to play both CoD and MB?

Because all the quotes I have seen by Luither (see sig) lead me to belive that what he means by 'merge' is to do it the way they did IL-2..

Where each 'sequel' will be a stand alone game that contains all the content from previous versions, thus no need, let alone a requirement, to have/own the previous versions.

That is to say MB will have the maps, planes, etc included in it along with all the new maps, planes, etc

Thus no need for CoD anymore.. Just like we don't need IL-2 PF anymore now that we have IL-2 46 if we want to fly a F4u vs. Zero on a pacific map

ACE-OF-ACES · #**313** 12-28-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver

why do people think it's a crime to pay for it?

Good question.. In light of the fact that is how 1C has been doing it for 10+ years. Money does not grow on trees.. People don't work for free.. If you want new content and upgrades you either pay per plane like RoF, or pay for sequals like IL-2

addman · #**314** 12-28-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

What did Luither say that gave you the impression that MB would 'merge' with CoD? Or that you would need to have a copy of CoD for MB to 'merge' with to play both CoD and MB?

Because all the quotes I have seen by Luither (see sig) lead me to belive that what he means by 'merge' is to do it the way they did IL-2..

Where each 'sequel' will be a stand alone game that contains all the content from previous versions, thus no need, let alone a requirement, to have/own the previous versions. Long story short, MB will have the maps, planes, etc included in it along with all the new maps, planes, etc

LOL! No, you've got it wrong. The Pacific Fighters stand-alone expansion didn't contain anything previous, it only contained the Pacific scenario together with planes and objects of that scenario. You could play on it's own with the Pacific scenario only OR you could merge it with Forgotten Battles (if you already owned it) and enjoy Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters in a merged (you do understand the word right?) game with the content of both. Pacific Fighters didn't contain the content of Forgotten Battles and neither did the Aces Expansion. BoM will play on it's own without CloD but if you want to fly your MiG-3 over the English channel then you are gonna need both. That's what a stand-alone expansion is.

ACE-OF-ACES · #**315** 12-28-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by addman

LOL! No, you've got it wrong. The Pacific Fighters stand-alone expansion didn't contain anything previous, it only contained the Pacific scenario together with planes and objects of that scenario. You could play on it's own with the Pacific scenario only OR you could merge it with Forgotten Battles (if you already owned it) and enjoy Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters in a merged (you do understand the word right?) game with the content of both.

Oh that's right, my bad! I forgot that the inital versin of PF allowed you to install PF seperate, with just PF, or merge it.. It was later on that they came out with an install that combined all the content

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Originally Posted by addman

Pacific Fighters didn't contain the content of Forgotten Battles and neither did the Aces Expansion.

Your right.. it was the version after that, that combined everything into one

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Originally Posted by addman

BoM will play on it's own without CloD but if you want to fly your MiG-3 over the English channel then you are gonna need both. That's what a stand-alone expansion is.

Ah, ok.. that will work too.. Sorry for the confusion!

addman · #**316** 12-28-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver

Ok so if it's just like Pacific fighters in that regards....why do people think it's a crime to pay for it?

Yups, if they are doing it like they've done before it's gonna be like Pacific Fighters. I guess some people think that they should have CloD fixed rather than having to shell out for an expansion but that's not a problem really since luthier has stated they will fix CloD, expansion or no expansion. I think it's all just become a big pile of misunderstandings.

addman · #**317** 12-28-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Oh that's right, my bad! I forgot that the inital versin of PF allowed you to install PF seperate, with just PF, or merge it.. It was later on that they came out with an install that combined all the content

Your right.. it was the version after that, that combined everything into one

Ah, ok.. that will work too.. Sorry for the confusion!

That's alright, it's kind of confusing at first but makes sense when you understand it. Forgotten Battles was a stand-alone expansion but the Aces Expansion pack was only an expansion pack and couldn't be played on it's own. Oh crap! now I'm dizzy...

Ze-Jamz · #**318** 12-28-2011, 03:14 PM

Either way CloD will be fixed and we have a nice expansion to play..

Years of enjoyment, thats all I care about atm

Richie · #**319** 12-28-2011, 04:59 PM

I remember the dizzying amount of patches there were after Pacific Fighters up until finally that other expansion came out. I keep forgetting the name of it and it's hard to find pics of it online. Then 1946 came out. Peshka or something like that.

Richie · #**320** 12-28-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie

I remember the dizzying amount of patches there were after Pacific Fighters up until finally that other expansion came out. I keep forgetting the name of it and it's hard to find pics of it online. Then 1946 came out. Peshka or something like that.

Here they are. Old 2001 IL-2. It had 2 free patches during it's run.
Then the newer generation
Forgotten Battles 2003. The base game. I forget how many free patches there were but there were a lot.
Ace Expansion Pack. The first pay for patch
Pacific Fighters. A pay for patch and also stand alone game.
Pe-2 Peshka. A pay for patch
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 2006 not shown. has all this content and much more

http://il2yellowpages.tripod.com/