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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-26-2011, 12:40 PM
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*(Doubles up with laughter) Bwah,ha, ha,ha, ha,ha, ha!
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:57 PM
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Also you don't sell an unfinished product and then save 5 or 10 minutes each day in a full development team of a dozen guys or way more. Their team has enough productive hours each day - if one of them would take only 10 minutes to inform the community it wouldn't affect their development at all.
There has been communication. It always ends with people complaining that Luthier does not respect them. It's always a disaster.

And they don't need 5-10 minutes to update you on the progress. It only takes 5 seconds.

"When it's done, it's done."

You can even do the progress update yourself.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:15 PM
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There has been communication. It always ends with people complaining that Luthier does not respect them. It's always a disaster.

And they don't need 5-10 minutes to update you on the progress. It only takes 5 seconds.

"When it's done, it's done."

You can even do the progress update yourself.
They say ignorance is bliss, but just because you enjoy not hearing what they are working on does not mean that everyone here does, I don't want much but just another quick roadmap and what ppl are working on currently would be very welcome.

It's not like were asking for an interview with every single member of the dev team ffs just some info.. Either way I'm patiently waiting and playing the game
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:18 PM
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There has been communication. It always ends with people complaining that Luthier does not respect them. It's always a disaster.

And they don't need 5-10 minutes to update you on the progress. It only takes 5 seconds.

"When it's done, it's done."

You can even do the progress update yourself.
That's not a development update. That's a social status on how things are going (which, as you suggest, any fool could guess at).
A development update involves progress information, perhaps screenshots, showing tangible progress or development. The update may focus on specific areas of development, with a general inclination as to how much work is still needed; and also how the community may help in suggesting improvements.

The two are completely different, and should not be mixed up. Clearly some aren't bothered my either, others are happy to just hear a word from Luthier (even if it tells us nothing that the last update told us), and then others are annoyed that he could act so smarmy and flippantly about the status of the game. (note: I'm not expressing any personal opinions here).

As some say, 1 minute to say:
-the sound is going well. On Friday we will post a development video showing how it has progressed and later the next week we hope to release a patch to cover_______

takes no time at all, and probably takes less time than the update Luthier posted here (considering he had to open another youtube tab and paste the link etc etc)

Anyway, nothing will change shortly so may the debate continue...
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:20 PM
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I don't want much but just another quick roadmap and what ppl are working on currently would be very welcome.
Why do you need to know more than "they're working on fixing the game"? Does it really make you feel better if they say "we're working in fixing the game, sound is the #1 priority"? What if sound isn't your #1 priority? What if they say that multi-player is the #1 priority and you want them to fix the sound? Is that update still welcome? Are you beginning to see the problem?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:24 PM
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A development update involves progress information, perhaps screenshots, showing tangible progress or development. The update may focus on specific areas of development, with a general inclination as to how much work is still needed; and also how the community may help in suggesting improvements.
That sort of thing does not happen on this planet. Don't believe me? Go to the 777/RoF boards and ask for a progress report like that on their next update. Good luck!
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:34 PM
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Are you beginning to see the problem?
Yes I can see the problem, the problem is you don't want to know anything, however I want to know but I don't want know what you think you know so let luthier come here and tells us what he knows...

Yes I see where your coming from and I really really don't care, what priorities they have set is not for me to debate over that's luthiers job... All I want to know is what they are working on its an easy way to keep spirits up and build a good relationship up with fan base that why most companies try to keep ppl informed.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:38 PM
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That sort of thing does not happen on this planet. Don't believe me? Go to the 777/RoF boards and ask for a progress report like that on their next update. Good luck!
..that's probably because they already give steady reports and the game buglist is pretty much ironed out.

I was thinking about putting you in the ignore list, but I find your comments honestly amusing. U r the customer care wet dream
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:39 PM
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Yes I can see the problem, the problem is you don't want to know anything
Not even close. The problem is that any sort of progress report is just going to upset people (which you can see every time there is a progress report) for reasons both real and imagined.

BTW, it's not that I don't want to know anything, it's that it makes no difference whether I know anything. The update will be ready when it's ready. It will fix whatever it fixes. There is no way I can change any of that, so what real difference does it make if I know the details?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:40 PM
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Well done Luthier! You are keeping us busy without an update lol
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