SoW: Battle for Moscow and other Igromir news

[=69.GIAP=TOOZ]

Well, honestly, I had noticed the seemingly excessive gunsmoke as well, and it does look somewhat overdone. However, something I noticed right off the bat is how the gunsmoke actually responds to the wind or airflow during flight. When in the air the guns fire and the gunsmoke billows out and then flows behind over the wings, but on the ground, when the stationary Hurricane fires its guns the smoke is propelled forward! I thought that was a neat detail!

[winny]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

So if it happens later then why does it happen instantaneously in SoW? Just curious.
It dies happen, but from videos seems quite rare. Of course this is debateable, by the smoke just looks unnatural on that level vin those pictures it looks natural but in SoW the smoke seems to start really thick and transcend at the same type of thickness
I'd happily have Oleg show real evidence to dispute me and prove SoW right, but don't forget that last time I said this luthier responded and said they all hated the smoke and were still trying to get it to the level they wanted

You're right about it being all or nothing with very little in between. I think I was being pedantic.

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

ok, i know that german raids over moscow was poors compared with BOB: very low charge of bombs, and incendiary bombs, only to panic the russian center population. offices, theaters and goberment buldings the common bombing target . But not big deal.

The battle are 50-150km west of Moscow.

only i want is that oleg don't do a moscow city battle small scenario.
But compared whit battle of britain, we have more different planes to choose. nice

"The Moscow area PVO had at its disposal the 6 IAK/PVO, which comprised of 29 fighter regiments with 585 fighters: "
- 170 MiG-3s
- 95 Yak-1s
- 75 LaGG-3s
- 200 I-16s
- 45 I-153s
maybe Mk II Hurricanes


axis
Bf 109E-3
Bf 109E-7
Bf 109F-2
Bf 109F-4
Bf 110

Re 2000s
CR.42s
B-534-I

maybe...
He 112
51 C.200s (Corpo Italiano di Spedizione in Russia).

http://www.journal.forces.gc.ca/vo9/.../Canuel-6t.jpg

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

the german operation "Taifun" and the soviet counteroffensive planeset would have a wide choice of airplanes, and interesting too

Yak-1, MiG-3, LaGG-3,P-40C (Tomahawk),I-16,I-153, IL-2, DB-3/IL-4, Pe-2/3
vs
Bf109F, Bf109E-7/B, Bf110D/E, Ju87B, Hs123, Ju88A, He111

and sure a lot more

late41/early42 can be a very interesting scenario.

yep, we dont know the exactly time. i sayd barbarossa, but now i believe when we said Battle FOR Moscow we are talking about late 1941- begining 1942.

maybe we have very early version of Focke Wulf 190 A and P-40

Anyway.
I want 1941-1942 continuation war.

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Really, a simple spelling error makes my posts pointless? Don't be such a bigot; it's people like you that lead to wars (ahem Hitler) but of course, none of this is taken personally. And I got an A-star and an A in English. Shock; get a re-mark. Come on, that was extremely uncalled for.

You compare me to HITLER?? People like me "lead to wars"?

- And then you go on to say that referring to your bad spelling (which just reflects your thinking, honestly) is "extremely uncalled for"??

Oh, by the way, we need to see a scan of your report card, you can't just come in here and claim those grades without proof. *Rolling eyes*

....The crackpots this forum attracts...

[major_setback]

More QA.

Some of this was posted before, and SaQSoN has also translated some of it. Some was new to me, so I'll post it here too. This was from an earlier QA post in the same thread:

Q: Notes look like they were copied and pasted from English.

Oleg:
Almost indeed. Ilya did the English.... Russian - well say so: not everyone understands the specific characters of aircraft, and terminology of pilots....
It will be corrected...
And the 'normal sight' refers to bombing...
In general, maybe tomorrow I will look and will tell about possibilities of adjustments of settings... certainly in general can though one page to remember.

But I remind you: the Interface looks not final. And much that will change. There are in general some menus that are not issued, and service commands of access to some functions only.

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Q: ...1) the server as it was in Il-2 is built already in game.
2) Is not present ' debris ' from an opponent getting enough from the plane at hit from machine guns. As a guide, it is possible only by the flashes specifying where exactly the bullet has gone.

Oleg: 1. Not at all as in Il-2. But yes, it is built in.
2. there is a debris, but it much finer. But sometimes fly away the whole panels.
Who closely looked video where Blenheim it is attacked, there besides "dust" a large bit flies away and almost hits the Messer', flying up behind.

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Q: Settings: The column for the keyboard and a column for joystick and as to make a key of clearing of programmed buttons on functions. It is certainly used already in many simulators. But function the extremely convenient.
In general, there is a sense in the air about that of unforeseen functions? That is possible to alter it is according to the submitted applications?
That the interface not final is clear.

Oleg:
There there is a section, both for buttons and for axes. Also there is a choice of the screen adjustments. In general for the plane, settings for chambers, types and ... it will not seem too little. You simply probably have not still seen it all.
There is even a section of adjustments of landing in machines [ed:AI?].... But while only pair lines. And in release it will be closed. For the time being.
In general adjustments, even I am so much in wonder....

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Q: In settings so much interesting has appeared in comparisons to Il2. For example heating of any arrangements of the plane, switching of tanks, the task of allocations of dropping of bombs. By the way in the same place management of cars is separately adjusted..

Oleg: Still this all would work without mistakes at regular intervals getting out.... But yes... As you can see, long-term wishes of users of Il2 have been heard.
All right...

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[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by =69.GIAP=TOOZ

Well, honestly, I had noticed the seemingly excessive gunsmoke as well, and it does look somewhat overdone. However, something I noticed right off the bat is how the gunsmoke actually responds to the wind or airflow during flight. When in the air the guns fire and the gunsmoke billows out and then flows behind over the wings, but on the ground, when the stationary Hurricane fires its guns the smoke is propelled forward! I thought that was a neat detail!

Plt Off Colin Gray had this to say about his first shots in anger.

"Suddenly, we found ourselves in amongst a gaggle of 109s. I opened fire at one of them, but stopped when I noticed smoke coming back over my wings. That smoke shook me - I thought somebody was firing at me. I pulled round hard but there was nobody there - what I had seen was cordite smoke billowing back from my own guns."

I dont know if the effect shown in the sim is accurate or not but quotes like that suggests that the smoke was plainly visible from the cockpit, (and how little experience some of these pilots had. You would thought they'd fired their guns in training????) .

I wonder what the effect would look like from the cockpit?

Cheers!

[major_setback]

Online map?

[Luffe]

Originally Posted by major_setback

Online map?

I hope so.

Anyway, that map reminded me that we haven't seen any forrested areas 'up close' in SOW.
I hope they are not managed the same way as Il2s 'pancake' forrests.

Have anyone spotted anything about this in the vids from Igromir?

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Luffe

I hope so.

Anyway, that map reminded me that we haven't seen any forrested areas 'up close' in SOW.
I hope they are not managed the same way as Il2s 'pancake' forrests.

Have anyone spotted anything about this in the vids from Igromir?

I think these are the closest:

[Luffe]

Thanks. I had not seen those.

Looks great from that altitude.