Arguments, speculations, rants and generally off-topic/repetitive topics megathread

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by klem

He said "minimum two weeks". Its now only three. I think we can give him another week for the patch or update info.

A lot of the crybabies here will cry, whine, moan and bitch for the entire time regardless of what's said, done or communicated, so might as well just lock the entire thread right away and save the bandwith and server-space, to be honest.

[skouras]

Originally Posted by furbs

LOL i vote for Tree!!

he has my vote too

Originally Posted by Plt Off JRB Meaker

He says he won't communicate on the forum as this takes him away from development,but I don't buy that,how long does it take to put us in the picture by giving us a small update on here.

Yes i remember when Oleg said that he couldn't communicate because he was so busy, then we found out that he hadn't been involved with CLOD for a year and a half, thanks to Jason at 777 for that info. In short you really cannot believe much that these guys say anymore, luthier as told more than a few untruths in the last year or so but unfortunately we are stuck with him.

[Rextar]

Earth shattering

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Originally Posted by klem

He said "minimum two weeks". Its now only three. I think we can give him another week for the patch or update info.

He can have another couple of months for this patch as far as I'm concerned, if they can fix this sim correctly then so be it.I can be as patient as the next man,no problem,but your missing the point.

It's the lack of communication which is the point here.

[adonys]

"minimum 2 weeks" might also be read as 2 months, 2 years, 2 decades, 2 hundred years, 2 thousand years or even never-ever.

the communication fault is of Luthier's who doesn't understand that, while saying "minimum 2 weeks" won't bound you to release anything after those 2 weeks time period (and it's a good thing he learned that), it still bounds you to give an update of the situation after the said 2 weeks, or close enough..

I still can't understand the failure of spending exactly 5 minutes to post something like "guys, we're sorry we couldn't managed it in two weeks, it seems we'll need another three at least, so see you then. thank you for your patience!"..

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by adonys

I still can't understand the failure of spending exactly 5 minutes to post something like "guys, we're sorry we couldn't managed it in two weeks, it seems we'll need another three at least, so see you then. thank you for your patience!"..

Having played many MMO's, I can EXACTLY understand why they don't. Any such statement would, damn near without fault, lead the the EXACT same situation as we have now, namely a bitchfest of epic proportions, which again would lead to the devs not bothering to speak to us at all.

Regardless of what they do, they will get murdered on the boards. It's a Catch 22-situation (aka classic "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't").

Hell, I understand perfectly well why they don't bother taking 5 mins to post, as whatever they said would be turned back at them instantly.

[adonys]

I'm sorry, but it seem you don't understand anything.

This is a board of 12 years old kids complaining that their beloved mage got nerfed in the latest patch, while the warrior got a super-duper new ability to own them.

This is about a game gravely affected by bugs and not-developed features to the point the single player mode is next to useless.

but please, feel free to go on..

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by adonys

I'm sorry, but it seem you don't understand anything.

This is a board of 12 years old kids complaining that their beloved mage got nerfed in the latest patch, while the warrior got a super-duper new ability to own them.

This is about a game gravely affected by bugs and not-developed features to the point the single player mode is next to useless.

but please, feel free to go on..

I can see you've never played a Funcom-game. If you had, you'd see that the whining and bitching here is damn near exactly the same as you'll find there, and other, places.

I've also never refuted the fact that this game has issues, some of the staggering in proportion and utterly game-breaking in effect. Hell, I'll be the first one to join that bandwagon. But the whining and bitching that goes on in here is, quite frankly, about as staggering in it's idiocy. They way people go on and on and on about how little communication there is, how horrible the game is etc doesn't really make it a gigantic secret as to why someone doesn't bother posting a dev-update. Why bother, when all you'll get is an avalanche of negativity? I'd love to be able to fly my 109 together/against with my friends. I'd love to have the same fun for hours on end that I had back in IL2:1946. We're not there yet, but that doesn't mean that I'll get bent all out of shape about it. There'll be news to be had when it's ready to be given, and acting like a small child that goes MOM!MOM!MOM! ICECREAM! MOM! MOM! ICECREAAAAM! for months on end won't get it any faster.

Yes, it's more or less broken. Yes, there's little to no communication. Yes, Oleg might have jumped over to other projects. Yes, Ilya aka Luthier is now in charge. Deal with it. Have people so insanely little to do that they can't walk away from something and check back a few weeks/months later? Talk about OCD'ing!

People need to 1: accept that things takes time, and 2: learn that patience is a virtue.

I wish that I'd win the lottery so that I could walk into my boss' office and do the Allmight Feckoff-dance, hand over my resignation and then launch into a tirade on how utterly stupid I think most of the decisions she's taken for the last two years are, but until that happens: Patience. It's a virtue, and one that few possess.

You know, I don't even know why I bother. It'll get drowned out by the whining anyway.

[theOden]

Well, at least you're not whining.