IL2 BoP - Sales Figures

[fritzwendel]

Have no fear, Fritz is here! With the answer to your question.

PS3 = 180,000 copies sold
Xbox 360 = 150,000 copies sold

Link to Vgchartz Here

[Deascendent]

Seriously, I can't stand miserable Americans that buy into all the anti-u.s. hate around the world, every country has their skeletons in their closets.. and to say that all we did was swoop in at the end and take German technology is complete crap... Did you not forget that we were fighting a two front war and that we supplied EVERY single one of our allies in some form from pretty much the VERY beginning, just because we didn't have boots on the ground in Europe til late, doesn't mean we weren't there...

I agree with what that one guy said about the name, "IL2 Sturmovik", even people that know a lot about WW2 will still look at it and be hesitant to buy it cause of the unique,mysterious title..

Just look at the PC version, only titled "Wings of Prey", they obviously did some market research themselves..

Fuzzy- have atleast some pride, because no matter how much sucking up and apologizing you might do, Europeans and such will STILL not like us.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by Cwl

well the game definitley needs to be advertised more and lets be honest IL2 sturmovik isnt a catchy name.

In Russia maybe everyone knows what a Sturmovik is but in the UK or USA or Europe nobody does.

If they want to boost sales for a sequel they repackage the game depending on country.

in the UK they should name the game after the Spitfire. in the US thy should name it after the MUSTANG. etc.

that way the game would sell more copies.

If you think BOP is slow here, you should look at the Russian BOP forums. It finally dawned on me that there's no Russians here cause they're on their non-latin forum, so I went and found it... and there is not even 1 page of topics. You can see the latest threads, all the way back to the in-development threads, all on one short list.

But IL-2 Sturmovik is a name that has been heard by everyone who flies flight sims... on PC it is huge. Better to call it IL-2 Sturmovik than something like, idn, Heroes over Europe? Spits n' Schmitts? 'Canes, Mustanes, and other Planes... Run n' Gun Fun P51... Yak Attack...

There was a good turn-based game from the '90's called Achtung Spitfire... that is a great name for a ww2 air battle game.

Originally Posted by deascendant

Just look at the PC version, only titled "Wings of Prey", they obviously did some market research themselves..

Wings of Prey is an alternate, bad translation of the Russian title, Крылатые Хищники, which literally means "Winged Predators."

Like many of the PSN trophy names, and the cutscene narration, it looks like they didn't have a native English speaker to vet the translations... They got it right the first time with Birds of Prey, Wings of Prey sounds funny.

[dkwookie]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

Better to call it IL-2 Sturmovik than something like, idn, Heroes over Europe? Spits n' Schmitts? 'Canes, Mustanes, and other Planes... Run n' Gun Fun P51... Yak Attack...

There was a good turn-based game from the '90's called Achtung Spitfire... that is a great name for a ww2 air battle game.

Some great names there
How about "Stuka Loopy" or "A Fokke Wolf In London"

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by Deascendent

Seriously, I can't stand miserable Americans that buy into all the anti-u.s. hate around the world, every country has their skeletons in their closets.. and to say that all we did was swoop in at the end and take German technology is complete crap... Did you not forget that we were fighting a two front war and that we supplied EVERY single one of our allies in some form from pretty much the VERY beginning, just because we didn't have boots on the ground in Europe til late, doesn't mean we weren't there...

I agree with what that one guy said about the name, "IL2 Sturmovik", even people that know a lot about WW2 will still look at it and be hesitant to buy it cause of the unique,mysterious title..

Just look at the PC version, only titled "Wings of Prey", they obviously did some market research themselves..

Fuzzy- have atleast some pride, because no matter how much sucking up and apologizing you might do, Europeans and such will STILL not like us.

I wouldn't think of apologizing for 8 years of foreign policy that I didn't vote for. You'd have to be blind to not see why anti-US feelings have been stronger lately. I have plenty to be proud of, just not my country. Patriotism in the face of America's Bush years is called fascism.

Maybe things will turn around. Too bad the reality is that Americans are so stupid they'll vote Obama out after 4 years and elect another bible-beating facist redneck to put the final nail in this country's coffin. Then we can invade Iran and have some real fun.

As for our involvement in Europe - Germany was defeated before we entered. Our entry into that war was simply to prevent the Russians from occupying all of Europe. The technological assets were icing on the cake. The cold war practically started before WWII ended.

As for the name change - maybe MAYBE the spitfire/hurricane would work. At least those planes have cockpits. Using the mustang name given that the roster of American planes is incomplete and the P-51 doesn't even have a cockpit - it wouldn't make sense and would be a shallow attempt to appeal to American gamers (yea - kinda like "whoring" something out). Marketing is great and all, but not when it is done in a way that misrepresents the game.

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by fuji8bit

Dude -- you have serious anger issues, and even more serious intelligence issues.

The original post had nothing to do with "American Ignorance". I have lived and traveled all over the world, and in every (participating) country I have visited (all three major axis countries, and the major allied powers)-- guess what? They all have differing views of their participation in the war. Americans were the Arsenal of Democracy, Britain stopped the Germans on the last stand of their Island, Russians gave more blood than any nation to blunt the Blitzkrieg. I respect that. They all have a story to tell, and intelligent people piece together history from all sides and form the best version of the truth they can come up with.

The original poster was merely making a realistic marketing suggestion. What British Kid doesn't dream of being a Spitfire pilot? What German Kid wouldn't want to fly a FW-190, defending the homeland? Are these kids full of "American Ignorance"?

My last point is this. "American Ignorance" is usually attributed to viewing the entire world through the single lens of American experience, which is something you do without realizing it. You certainly made your point about American Ignorance, but not in the way you intended.

My response was regarding the name changing on the American version of the game. I said nothing about the British or other versions. So take it in that context.

Also, as I said above, there are not enough American planes (and the mustang itself lacks a real cockpit) for the suggested name change to make sense. That kind of marketing move would look like a shallow attempt to gain extra sales while misrepresenting the product at the same time.

Also, you don't know enough about me to reach any conclusion about my intelligence. If you are basing it off what I write on an internet forum, then either you yourself are lacking in intelligence or you simply meant it as an insult. I'll be nice and assume the latter.

[Riceball]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

I wouldn't think of apologizing for 8 years of foreign policy that I didn't vote for. You'd have to be blind to not see why anti-US feelings have been stronger lately. I have plenty to be proud of, just not my country. Patriotism in the face of America's Bush years is called fascism.

Maybe things will turn around. Too bad the reality is that Americans are so stupid they'll vote Obama out after 4 years and elect another bible-beating facist redneck to put the final nail in this country's coffin. Then we can invade Iran and have some real fun.

Man. If you're so upset, you need to get out and do something about it. Wow.

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

Our entry into that war was simply to prevent the Russians from occupying all of Europe.

Some would say Japan had something to do with it. And after WW1 most Americans did'nt care what happened in Europe. That is why we were'nt involved earlier.

[trk29]

This thread as for sure went off topic and should not turn into a political or personal argument. thanks

[monyetension]

this is that happen when people start debating instead of discussing...

[Deascendent]

I don't know if you've read the recent polls or watched the recent world news, but the only area in which Obama has the majority of the country in favor of him, is for the troop surge in Afghanistan... lol, I voted for him in the hopes he would be moderate... he isn't, for all Bush's wrongs and as Muse put it, "crimes against the Earth".. he kept us safe from another attack and if it wasn't for corrupt wallstreet/financial institutions ( which there will always be corruption in which man is involved) he would have been seen nowdays as an American hero..

Independents are leaving Obama in droves, and for the record... what exactly did the last administration do so wrong and why is it so important that the world loves us?? They never will!!!!! WE SAVED EUROPE FROM THE NAZIS, REBUILT THEIR COUNTRIES, AND LET THEM LIVE IN PEACE AND THEY HATE US FOR IT!!!!! LOL.

Sorry for going off topic, I'm still waiting for XBox patch, so there's not much to talk about on topic.