the best dogfighting this generation?

[King Jareth]

You can use the zoom and freelook at the same time to zoom in on the instuments.

[Dubbedinenglish]

For me it is this and Warhawk are the best this gen. AC6 was not as good as its PS2 predecessors and HAWX nerfed the fun in flying with the hand holding assist modes.

IL-2 and Warhawk are two different approaches on flight, Warhawk being a very arcade, but extremely fun game and IL-2 being a sim.

I've put in over 300 hours in Warhawk and I can see the same for this game.

[aceofdaves]

You can. To clarify, what I really meant is it'll be easier to have a 'quick glance' down when you don't have to depress the right stick.

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by PoetSaskia

there hasn't been much in the way of flight combat this gen. I own HAWX and Ace Combat 6, and was disappointed with both of them. I haven't experienced dogfighting this good in many years, since Rogue Leader for gamecube. I think it's the best this gen, what do you think?

To date, the best any gen, PC or console IMO.

I have had IL-2 on my PC systems for the last 7 years. Each new system I build, each new OS I install, IL-2 for me has always been part of the installation process. Sometimes it has been the only game on my system.

Today I uninstalled it.

BoP has set the bar. The look and feel is perfect. The cinematic effects are superb (please can we have replay!?).

If it was available for PC I don't think I'd install it, even though I have a very good SSD based system.
BoP belongs on my 40" 1080p Samsung running on my PS3 and the more I fly with the T-Flight HX, the more I love it.
Can't wait to fix the deadzone.

[PoetSaskia]

yeah Xplay said its the best flight combat game they've ever played on a console.

[QBlackDeathQ]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

I have AC6/Hawx/Over-G and now IL2. I can say for certain that IL2 is THE BEST flight game for consoles ever made. The thing about modern flight sims is that 99% or the time you never actually see your opponents due to the supreme range of missiles. Arcade wise this usually results in games where all you do is wait for tone and fire to get a kill.

By having the game in WW2, we are once more returned to a fight & flight scenario. Gunnery is key to victory, and skill at getting "guns on". There are a few issues I have with it as a title for console.

Sim mode I feel is a waste of time, as do many other console players. If I want a "sim" game I play PC, thats what its best at. Arcade style games is where the consoles strength is. I mean no offence to anyone who plays it, whatever floats your boat. Me though I see Arcade and Realistic as the two core modes to the game.

Realistic for a stick, Arcade for a pad.

But all in all, with a few minor tweaks I would give IL2 BoP a very good 9.5/10 score. I currently rate it at 8.8 ( lack of SP options/controls definitions etc).

I think arcade and realistic are a waste of time. It might just be me but a kill in those modes feels fake you really dont have to work hard for it. you just lock on and follow the arrows, flaps flight corrections are all done for you. simply put a kill does not feel like a kill. in sim you work just to track your target, and it all comes togeather when you squeeze off a few rounds and your target goes up in flames.

[antdavidl]

Originally Posted by PoetSaskia

there hasn't been much in the way of flight combat this gen. I own HAWX and Ace Combat 6, and was disappointed with both of them. I haven't experienced dogfighting this good in many years, since Rogue Leader for gamecube. I think it's the best this gen, what do you think?

I also agree that is the best we have in current consoles ... but I also think it is the only.

There is a lot of missing possibility ... I wish the market allows the developer to return with all them in the future, either paying for them or not ...

[PoetSaskia]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

BoP is using exactly the same flightmodel for Sim mode as the original Il-2 (1946), and still allows hundreds of planes in the air.

Hundreds, you say? Are there really missions with hundreds of planes in the air? I'm not very far into the game, but I'm looking forward to some massive air battles. I want to know more about that!

[AV 1611]

This is my favorite thread! It really provides an honest in-depth view for SIM fans who are looking to buy BOP. Great questions and answers gentlemen

[AV 1611]

Originally Posted by Dexter

To date, the best any gen, PC or console IMO.

I have had IL-2 on my PC systems for the last 7 years. Each new system I build, each new OS I install, IL-2 for me has always been part of the installation process. Sometimes it has been the only game on my system.

Today I uninstalled it.

BoP has set the bar. The look and feel is perfect. The cinematic effects are superb (please can we have replay!?).

If it was available for PC I don't think I'd install it, even though I have a very good SSD based system.
BoP belongs on my 40" 1080p Samsung running on my PS3 and the more I fly with the T-Flight HX, the more I love it.
Can't wait to fix the deadzone.

YOu said it DEXTER! Replay and FLY-BY camera view is essential! BOP PS3 ROCKS!