Please start VAC online. - Page 3

Ataros · #21 11-04-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502

well ataros,...if you have an idea, why not start yourself and inform steam?
i for example have no clue how they do it, and i bet im not the only one...so in my opinion there is a point in discussing it here...

I have no idea and do not think cheating is a problem (yet). Those who do think it is should provide any proof and report it to Steam. E.g. someone in that thread http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35197 mentioned he flew with 109 and Spit mods online with his 2nd account. Mods are posted on the forum in the Mods section. I replied in that thread that he should report this case to Steam if he wants it fixed. Anyone can try and do this if wants to, otherwise these discussions are only promoting cheating (as potential cheaters learn from them that they might be not caught) IMHO.

David198502 · #22 11-04-2012, 11:20 AM

well you seem to ignore my posts, and what i was acutally saying....

the video i linked is a proof that it already happened, so its definitely not a pure rumour like you suggested...

i posted as well, that there are many false accusations, of people who just dont want to understand that there are better pilots out there than themselves...
so you are talking to the wrong guy here...

i fight almost on a daily bases most of the people who are suspected by some to cheat, and all i can say about them is, that they are just damn good pilots, and that its good fun to fight them...S! you russian aces

and furthermore, im also of the opinion, that its not a real problem like it is right now...
just like notafinger said,....ignorance is more of a problem than cheating right now.

Ataros · #23 11-04-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502

the video i linked is a proof that it already happened, so its definitely not a pure rumour like you suggested...

Sorry, did not watch the video, short of time a bit. Is it VAC protected server? What settings it has? Latest version? It could be a privately run modded server? If you have any info please report to Steam. I do not know the procedure but it should be the same for all Steam games.

Cheating was possible in Il-2 too for many years(although denied by MG) but all cheaters I have heard of were just good players. That is why I do not think it is a problem yet.

ATAG set VAC on only after recent patch IIRC.

David198502 · #24 11-04-2012, 11:39 AM

well interesting that atag just activated it now with the recent patch....why didnt they do before?
because of the beta patches?

addman · #25 11-04-2012, 12:13 PM

Just because some people haven't seen any cheaters doesn't mean that there are none. Anti-cheating protection should be a top-priority in the future il-2 games, considering they'll probably will be primarily online oriented titles. Clod, as we all know, is a lost cause ATM.

FFCW_Urizen · #26 11-04-2012, 12:42 PM

How does VAC work?

Method 1:

The developer has to define Files safe and unsafe for modification, i.e. player and weaponskins in Counterstrike Source, which can be modified to the liking of the players and files that are unsafe, i.e. d3d8.dll. Now VAC runs a checksum comparison on those unsafe files, if they mismatch, a flag is raised in the system and the player is marked for ban.

Method 2:

Like Anti-Virus programs, it checks for known cheat signatures. If it finds an enabled cheat running or traces thereof in the ram, the player is marked for future ban. Furthermore, on VAC updates, known cheats will no longer work whilst being online, as VAC blocks them outright.

When will a cheater get banned?

VAC acts like an Attorney. It collects evidence to build a case. If it has collected enough, a cheater will be banned. It is not unheard of masses getting banned for cheating. It has always been a big deal in the communities.

Addendum: Method 1 is only used by VAC2, in CS1.6, modified OpenGL.dlls, were used widely, before the system was switched to VAC2.

S!

AbortedMan · #27 11-05-2012, 12:37 AM

Those that are denying that there are cheaters in CloD are burying their heads in the sand. In its current ability, cheats are happening online every day within CloD.

The fact that people are showing these cheats off while online is proof that they're not affected by any monitoring or control.

They're out there...right now. Not everyone, but the cheats are out there. Don't be stupid by denying it blindly.

jermin · #28 11-05-2012, 02:48 AM

There are only 2 kinds of people who will firmly deny the existence of cheaters if there does be.

One is the one who is not capable enough to tell the differences between cheaters and aces.

The other one is cheater itself.

GF_Mastiff · #29 11-05-2012, 03:42 AM

once again VAC does not Work! it's a placebo, it's there only for the nay sayers, to feel warm and fuzzy, while flying on line, no one is cheating in this game period. It's not possible VAC is working.. I know because it says VAC=1 in my conf.ini..

lol, go home sheep and get clipped!

salmo · #30 11-05-2012, 04:11 AM

For God's sake guys, give it a rest. Many of the posters here clearly have no clue what they're talking about, and fly into a panic just because they think someones "cheating" (whatever that means?).